Fight Club

[Ezra]

Tyler Durden LIE is possible. He has an abundance of facts and information, and has the energy of an EJ; it seems as if he retains the values of a dynamic Gamma. Also, appears to be very weak in Si. Although his Se is probably unusually strong for an LIE, I might be conflating his life style with Se, when in reality, it's merely the lifestyle of any given Gamma. The problem with SLE is that I don't see the Ti; I see Te. Likewise, with SEE, I don't really see Fi creative; he doesn't seem to give a shit about anyone but himself.

Cornelius Tyler's benefactor is a possibility; Tyler is essentially what he wants to be but isn't. Maybe Delta, because he doesn't seem to care about Se/Ni (at least not until Tyler comes along); he just wants solice and to live his consumerist life. He's uncomfortable with violence throughout the whole film, and only explodes maybe once.

Marla Singer Arguably Se valuing, and, if so, IEI wouldn't seem out of the question. Whatever the case, she's extremely unhealthy.

Bob EIE. Emotionally expressive; essentially one of the suckups to Tyler. Seems to value Se/Ni. Then again, who who is a part of Fight Club doesn't?

[Ezra]

Oh yeah, you can move this if you want. I realised it was in the wrong subforum just after I posted it.

[FDG]

Well that's obviously an alpha/beta movie. It's all about upheaval in society, nothing like gamma's evolutionary progress. I'd say Tyler is a clear SLE.

[Ezra]

Well that's obviously an alpha/beta movie. It's all about upheaval in society, nothing like gamma's evolutionary progress. I'd say Tyler is a clear SLE.

Alpha? Come off it. The Se is far too overwhelming for them. And what the fuck kind of propagandic bullshit is "gamma's evolutionary progress"?

[FDG]

Alpha? Come off it. The Se is far too overwhelming for them. And what the fuck kind of propagandic bullshit is "gamma's evolutionary progress"?

Idiot, I said Alpha-Beta, which is the peak of Fe.
Nothing propagandistic, there is both the need for revolution and evolution and steady-state, and each quadra gives priority to a part of the process.
I say Fight Club is situated at the peak of Fe-Ti, inbetween Alpha and Beta, opposed to the peak of Te-Fi.
In order to understand this you must accept quadra rotation, also because it's the only correct interpretation of socionics. It's about time that you do it and stop throwing around incorrect opinions with arrogance.

[Ezra]

Idiot, I said Alpha-Beta, which is the peak of Fe.

Don't call me an idiot. Actually, you said "Alpha/Beta" which essentially in my mind means "Alpha and/or Beta". Don't know what it means in yours. Besides, I don't know what system your studying. "Alpha-Beta" being "the peak of Fe"? Come on. We all know that Alpha Fe and Beta Fe look different. They're not the same thing. And besides, I didn't see an ounce of Fe in that film. It was dry, witty and intelligent but with Se; typical Gamma feel.

In order to understand this you must accept quadra rotation, also because it's the only correct interpretation of socionics.

Right, okay, apologies. I don't go by that system.

It's about time that you do it and stop throwing around incorrect opinions with arrogance.

Phaedrus?

Man, he's creating an army. Fabio, for a Ti PoLR, that was pretty fucking Ti. Maybe you are my Identical after all.

[Logos]

Alpha? Come off it. The Se is far too overwhelming for them. And what the fuck kind of propagandic bullshit is "gamma's evolutionary progress"?

There is alot of Se in the film, but how is it portrayed? If this is a social commentary on the state of the male in the Ikea society, is that Se being portrayed positively or is it merely the pressure valve through which we see this film? So I can definitely see why this may be considered a Beta film since there is Se-aplenty, but there is also the question as to what ends it is used.

[ScarlettLux]

Sry2Say but Fight Club is the purest Beta movie I have ever seen. IEIs are all head over heels for Tyler after they watch it. Where the heck are you seeing Te? Just because he has a lot of facts doesn't mean he doesn't have strong - look @ the functions together and what Tyler obviously values.

It would be laughable to even consider him dual seeking - check out what he does. He bands people together collectively, as one unit, without names! Everyone shaves their head, they are degraded, but in an way, it's all baby. Not LIE by a long shot. He values / ... the whole movie is about that. Imposing a structure (SeTi) ... he's a natural leader, knows how to rally troops and such.

I am also doing this for my film studies assignment (the biggest presentation ever) and I know a lot more about Fight Club now than I did before. Still love it, but I think Taxi Driver is a better film for what they're trying to convey.

Anyhow... Cornelius? I thought his name was Jack! Wow, is it? =/ Anyway I think he is an LII. He is so in need of some it's not even funny. But it's kinda strange how he does accept Tyler's imposement of on him ... it hurts him so bad (acid on hand lol) but in the end, he falls prey to it.