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    I've seen the connection made before between Si and health, but then, as has previously been noted, there are Si dominants who seem to neglect their health.

    The connection arises in the first place perhaps because it feels good to be healthy. But then there are some things which feel good right now but in the long term may result in poor health.

    Now maybe someone has come up with this before, but maybe the health-focus is more likely to be evident in intuitive types (rather than Si types) who have a concern for Si (either Si-valuing or perhaps even Si-role), because they might be more likely or more able to think about how things will play out in the future (Ni?). Then they might show more concern for their health in the present, because they know if they don't do things to keep healthy, then in the future they will feel physically bad. Whereas an Si type might be less likely to think about the future, and so they do things which feel good right now but might make them feel bad in the future.

    please rip this theory apart at your will

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellothere View Post
    I've seen the connection made before between Si and health, but then, as has previously been noted, there are Si dominants who seem to neglect their health.

    The connection arises in the first place perhaps because it feels good to be healthy. But then there are some things which feel good right now but in the long term may result in poor health.

    Now maybe someone has come up with this before, but maybe the health-focus is more likely to be evident in intuitive types (rather than Si types) who have a concern for Si (either Si-valuing or perhaps even Si-role), because they might be more likely or more able to think about how things will play out in the future (Ni?). Then they might show more concern for their health in the present, because they know if they don't do things to keep healthy, then in the future they will feel physically bad. Whereas an Si type might be less likely to think about the future, and so they do things which feel good right now but might make them feel bad in the future.

    please rip this theory apart at your will
    i agree. i've met some really haphazard si types. one istp i met on a bike race trip drank a 64 oz slushie and ensured his other friend(also a big guy, likely estj) drink one himself, and made him do it by a certain time. it was a joke, but still, this is more what i get from Si, not perfect health maintenance. but! however, there are some Si types who are really into maintaining really close health, but i'd say more than 75% are the beer guzzling variety.

    I've noticed a lot of health intuitive types, especially women.
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    I have begun to watch my sugar content, I got that from my dad, he has 100 books on wellness and health. and it fits his hidden agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamangir View Post
    I have begun to watch my sugar content, I got that from my dad, he has 100 books on wellness and health. and it fits his hidden agenda.
    Funny. My mum (LII) has a million health books too, and I'd have to say it's mostly her influence that keeps me relatively healthy. I think you're right, hellothere.
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    I don't know what category I would fall into, I just know I love exercising and maintaining my health because when I'm healthy, every day feels like a breeze compared to all the shit I usually gotta do.
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    I'm also paranoid about how much sugar I eat because I don't want to get diabetes because if I do that would mean lots of injections and blood tests and that is something that would make all my hair fall out

    But I just realised that what I said is kind of already explained by the hidden agenda... (of EIIs and LIIs), but I was trying to make my idea more general (in reconciling the Si-health connection with the unhealthy Si-dominants thing)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin View Post
    Funny. My mum (LII) has a million health books too, and I'd have to say it's mostly her influence that keeps me relatively healthy. I think you're right, hellothere.
    My LII dad is amazing. He always gives us fruit and tells us to work out, it's great. He is a champ.

    (in reconciling the Si-health connection with the unhealthy Si-dominants thing)
    maybe Si dominants know their body states well, so they know when to binge and act stupid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamangir View Post
    maybe Si dominants know their body states well, so they know when to binge and act stupid?
    that's probably true

    one other thing I was going to say was that although Si-concerned intuitive types may be more conscious about being healthy, they're still probably not as good at "being healthy" than types strong in Si - so they might do things to try and be healthy which don't quite work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellothere View Post
    I've seen the connection made before between Si and health, but then, as has previously been noted, there are Si dominants who seem to neglect their health.

    The connection arises in the first place perhaps because it feels good to be healthy. But then there are some things which feel good right now but in the long term may result in poor health.

    Now maybe someone has come up with this before, but maybe the health-focus is more likely to be evident in intuitive types (rather than Si types) who have a concern for Si (either Si-valuing or perhaps even Si-role), because they might be more likely or more able to think about how things will play out in the future (Ni?). Then they might show more concern for their health in the present, because they know if they don't do things to keep healthy, then in the future they will feel physically bad. Whereas an Si type might be less likely to think about the future, and so they do things which feel good right now but might make them feel bad in the future.

    please rip this theory apart at your will
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    i am completely not concerned about my health at all, on a physical level. yet i am one of the healthiest people....

    i use my to manifest physical health from that place. like this: I *know* I am Dynamic Health and It is So. I have even "corrected" nearsightedness in this way, as well as other ailments and for others too. because of this knowing, i naturally take actions that ensure physical health without having to focus on it.

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    I agree with your post hellothere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    When you play, play hard; when you work, don't play at all.
    ...wait...what??
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    dolphin makes meeeee soooooo infuriated omg argh. I wanna stab her with my nail file.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    When you play, play hard; when you work, don't play at all.
    I agree. Work is work. in america everything has to be fun or our small minds get bored.
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    Heath, I think people see Fun as a main dish in their lives, instead of a great spice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard View Post
    Heath, I think people see Fun as a main dish in their lives, instead of a great spice.
    yeah, fun is awesome. awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    When kids in my day recieved a small piece of hoarhound candy, they were over the moon. What enthusiasm. Compare that to the zombie-kids today's society produces. You just don't see that kind of sincere gratefulness anymore.
    it's true. it's all sarcasm and television programs. and saying 'oh shit!' whenever ANYTHING happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    When you play, play hard; when you work, don't play at all.
    I disagree completely with this...I think everything has to be fun, otherwise we're wasting our lives.

    (okay, the hypothesis is that I am looking to maximize the amount of happiness throughout life)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    I disagree completely with this...I think everything has to be fun, otherwise we're wasting our lives.

    (okay, the hypothesis is that I am looking to maximize the amount of happiness throughout life)
    you oftentimes end up tricking yourself into something is awesome("yeah dude, I'm doing LAUNDRY!!"). sometimes it is good to say "hey, this is going to be a neutral experience."

    i definitely think any experience within your control should be made fun as possible, but you know, reality or whatever.
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    just saw this thread.

    Si is not health. end of discussion.

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    I try to stay healthy, but i'm not neurotic about it. I mean, I love me some pizza and cheezeburgers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    just saw this thread.

    Si is not health. end of discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    just saw this thread.

    Si is not health. end of discussion.
    No, is not health. But it's certainly not the end of the discussion. If there's a misconception, we need to find the root of it and bring light to the causes of the misconception.

    It is also good to note that while is not health, there might be some connection between it and health that can be better elucidated by discussing the relationship. On the other hand, your quick, dismissive comments sound arrogant and foolish, even if you have a valid point.

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    stfu

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
    I'm so hurt. The tears are falling thick and fast into my beer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolphin
    I'm so hurt. The tears are falling thick and fast into my beer.
    lol wtf is it with you tonight? you're some depressive alcoholic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    just saw this thread.

    Si is not health. end of discussion.

    did you read the posts in the thread?

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