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    I've asked a couple of ISFP's to describe themselves. Fortunately they haven't been indoctrinated by socionics and therefor they can still describe themselves in their own pure words without fancy terminology.

    Their descriptions are always something like:

    I'm normal
    I'm simple

    It's like they try to say they are average. The first thing that comes to my mind is, who is average or normal if there are 16 different types... Everybody is special in some kind of way, but the ISFP doesn't seem to have found their uniqueness.

    I wonder, do ISFP's on this forum also describe themselves in terms as normal/simple etc?

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    Yeah - I've described myself like that. Not as normal (lol), but simple - yeah. In the past people have questioned my motives in doing/saying certain things - trying to work me out - and I think 'why all the analysing? I'm not that complex.' I don't mean that in a self-depreceating way though ... It's just a certain way of operating I think. I mean I often don't think about things before I do them - it's just a spontaneous decision, or I just act on a whim of the moment. That's why I describe myself as simple. There's often no thought processes behind my actions. I just feel, act, speak ... so it's frustrating sometimes when people try to get behind why I act a certain way - if I think about it long enough, sure - there'll probably be some subconscious motivation there - but honestly, off the top of my head I can't tell you why. Cause I can, cause it's there, I just felt like it ...

    Btw, I'm talking about everyday little occurences, not life's important decisions :-)
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    NO WAY!!!!

    I embrace my eccentricities, always have

    But then again I'm a weirdo. What's the point of being Alpha if you can't be at least a little out there?!?!

    I do however have weirdness issues with taking compliments. It feels...wrong.
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    I am not simple at all anymore, sorry. I've been so indocrinated.

    and i'm weirder than you bee, i know it.
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    I think I read on some type description that SEIs like to stay in the "middle" of social situations, and try to stay away from polarizing rhetoric, as theoretical discussion is wont to be. Also, I've noticed that SEIs tend not to give too much information away about themselves unless under stress. Does this fit in with the "simpler" descriptions y'all are talking about?

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    I love your Lewis quote Riddy. I would shout it from the rooftops if I thought it would do any good. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by anamericancer View Post
    That's odd. I would have expected them to describe themselves as strange, unique, weird. They've always had this "I want to be different" vibe to me.
    Then you have completely misunderstood what an ISFp is like. Read some type descriptions. Maybe a lot of your supposed ISFp friends are mistyped by you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    Then you have completely misunderstood what an ISFp is like. Read some type descriptions. Maybe a lot of your supposed ISFp friends are mistyped by you.
    Mmm, I beg to differ. Most ISFps I know, myself included, love being 'unique and different'. We don't need to be different to the extent that we want to be the center of attention- in fact, I don't even like being THAT noticeably unique. But we'd rather die than be honestly, plainly average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamangir View Post
    I am not simple at all anymore, sorry. I've been so indocrinated.

    and i'm weirder than you bee, i know it.
    I don't care Kam, you're my kind of weird
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    Quote Originally Posted by bee View Post
    NO WAY!!!!

    I embrace my eccentricities, always have

    But then again I'm a weirdo. What's the point of being Alpha if you can't be at least a little out there?!?!

    I do however have weirdness issues with taking compliments. It feels...wrong.
    But this reveals to complete misunderstanding of what it is like to be an Alpha SF type. And it is clearly incompatible with being an ISFp, if it is a typical attitude of the person behind the words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin View Post
    Yeah - I've described myself like that. Not as normal (lol), but simple - yeah. In the past people have questioned my motives in doing/saying certain things - trying to work me out - and I think 'why all the analysing? I'm not that complex.' I don't mean that in a self-depreceating way though ... It's just a certain way of operating I think. I mean I often don't think about things before I do them - it's just a spontaneous decision, or I just act on a whim of the moment. That's why I describe myself as simple. There's often no thought processes behind my actions. I just feel, act, speak ... so it's frustrating sometimes when people try to get behind why I act a certain way - if I think about it long enough, sure - there'll probably be some subconscious motivation there - but honestly, off the top of my head I can't tell you why. Cause I can, cause it's there, I just felt like it ...

    Btw, I'm talking about everyday little occurences, not life's important decisions :-)
    exactly. also the spontaneous thing is very common. I don't think, just go. that's something i've often heared an ISFP say.

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    ... I'd say "normal with a twist" is what most ISFps like to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    exactly. also the spontaneous thing is very common. I don't think, just go. that's something i've often heared an ISFP say.
    Yes, and it is also typically E-9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin View Post
    Yeah - I've described myself like that. Not as normal (lol), but simple - yeah. In the past people have questioned my motives in doing/saying certain things - trying to work me out - and I think 'why all the analysing? I'm not that complex.' I don't mean that in a self-depreceating way though ... It's just a certain way of operating I think. I mean I often don't think about things before I do them - it's just a spontaneous decision, or I just act on a whim of the moment. That's why I describe myself as simple. There's often no thought processes behind my actions. I just feel, act, speak ... so it's frustrating sometimes when people try to get behind why I act a certain way - if I think about it long enough, sure - there'll probably be some subconscious motivation there - but honestly, off the top of my head I can't tell you why. Cause I can, cause it's there, I just felt like it ...

    Btw, I'm talking about everyday little occurences, not life's important decisions :-)
    All of this makes perfect sense and is perfectly consistent with you being an ISFp. But it is also totally logically incomaptible with being an Enneagram type 4. And you should realize that fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    All of this makes perfect sense and is perfectly consistent with you being an ISFp. But it is also totally logically incomaptible with being an Enneagram type 4. And you should realize that fact.
    I never entertained the idea of being a type 4. You're mixing us all up my friend. I was originally thinking 2w3 - now I'm thinking 9w8 might be a possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin View Post
    I never entertained the idea of being a type 4. You're mixing us all up my friend. I was originally thinking 2w3 - now I'm thinking 9w8 might be a possibility.
    I am not mixing you up. I know that you have identified with type 2, and questioned my claim that all ISFps are 9s. But haven't you also lined up with those other "ISFps" who have claimed that it is quite possible for an ISFp to be a 4? Maybe I got that wrong; there are so many ISFps around these days, popping up like ants from an ant hill after the appearance of the big anteater Bionicgoat the Cannibal.

    Anyway, it is good that you are now contemplating the possibility that you might be a 9 after all.

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    Phaedrus, you're stubborn but you actually kinda make me laugh.
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