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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    Hahaha, you guys really love to explain and analyze things that are important to you. You guys seem to like dwelling in in, which is interesting. I'm more "alright, let's talk about this, and be clear, and then move on".


    What do you like to really analyze, INFjs?
    And people who know INFjs, what do they analyze most often?
    I think I overanalyze the future too much. My strong imagination enables me to understand how an action will lead to another and what the long term consequence will be. As such, I can have reservations about making a move because I know that one wrong step will create a chain of inconvenience. My ISFp friend is always curious about my ability to think ahead by visualizing correctly what will happen next. I guess at times it is a bane since I tend to think too much rather than just jump into the situation and improvise as I go along.

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    I tend to think about people and people-related issues (what is going on inside a person, what they need or want nothing of, and how to get it to them). When I'm doing school work, I tend to want to analyze things from a very big picture perspective and locate my subject or topic somewhere inside that, resplendent with all the implications and whatnot that follow from its connections to everything else. If I can do this, along with painting a similar type of big picture from some other period of time, I can usually get some sort of idea how the first leads to the second, what trends appear, how people might act, react, or change.

    Basically, in my free time it has more to do with individuals and personal developments, but I do like to indulge in more broad swaths of societal change, such as history or anthropology, at times. Sometimes I feel like that's pulling the lens too far back if overstressed, but often it also provides exactly the sort of context with which to situate the person or people you are dealing with. That's not so much an issue in everyday interaction, but when you start dealing with individuals from all over the world, then context is sorely needed (and frequently lacking). Thus I try to temper my own views which themselves fall into an inescapably personal context, potentially leaving me blind if I am ignorant or lull myself into a false sense of objectivity.
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    @munenori: you sig.s are reminding me of UDP.

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    Haha, interesting observation. I can see the connection somewhat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice View Post
    @munenori: you sig.s are reminding me of UDP.
    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    Haha, interesting observation. I can see the connection somewhat.
    What do you (both) mean?

    Alas, I am requesting further explanation.
    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    What do you (both) mean?

    Alas, I am requesting further explanation.
    I'm guessing the similarity is primarily the Morihei Ueshiba quotes. Given your past history of putting Eastern themed items in your sig line, particularly ones dealing with being a warrior, mine from a Japanese Martial Artist probably do remind some people of them.
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    Therefore, I must be Ne creative and an EII!

    Ah, I get it now




    (that's an inside joke)
    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    Hahaha, you guys really love to explain and analyze things that are important to you. You guys seem to like dwelling in in, which is interesting. I'm more "alright, let's talk about this, and be clear, and then move on".


    What do you like to really analyze, INFjs?
    And people who know INFjs, what do they analyze most often?
    I don't know. What is it you notice INFjs analyzing most? What have you observed that they enjoy getting deep into?

    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    I tend to think about people and people-related issues (what is going on inside a person, what they need or want nothing of, and how to get it to them). When I'm doing school work, I tend to want to analyze things from a very big picture perspective and locate my subject or topic somewhere inside that, resplendent with all the implications and whatnot that follow from its connections to everything else. If I can do this, along with painting a similar type of big picture from some other period of time, I can usually get some sort of idea how the first leads to the second, what trends appear, how people might act, react, or change.

    Basically, in my free time it has more to do with individuals and personal developments, but I do like to indulge in more broad swaths of societal change, such as history or anthropology, at times. Sometimes I feel like that's pulling the lens too far back if overstressed, but often it also provides exactly the sort of context with which to situate the person or people you are dealing with. That's not so much an issue in everyday interaction, but when you start dealing with individuals from all over the world, then context is sorely needed (and frequently lacking). Thus I try to temper my own views which themselves fall into an inescapably personal context, potentially leaving me blind if I am ignorant or lull myself into a false sense of objectivity.
    Munenori, where did your latest type thread go? I didn't see it when I skimmed the What's My Type section, but maybe I just overlooked it. I think it's likely you're INFj. In any case, the above is a demonstration of how you think similarly to me. I mean, I don't think we always agree on things, or even always look at things in the same way. But I can usually at least understand where you're coming from, which is more than I can say about many. One way of putting it is that you and I often seem to take separate paths, but the origin of thought is the same or very similar. Does that make sense?

    Anyway, I identify a lot with what you wrote.
    Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    Munenori, where did your latest type thread go? I didn't see it when I skimmed the What's My Type section, but maybe I just overlooked it. I think it's likely you're INFj. In any case, the above is a demonstration of how you think similarly to me. I mean, I don't think we always agree on things, or even always look at things in the same way. But I can usually at least understand where you're coming from, which is more than I can say about many. One way of putting it is that you and I often seem to take separate paths, but the origin of thought is the same or very similar. Does that make sense?

    Anyway, I identify a lot with what you wrote.
    Here it is:
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ad.php?t=18479

    That does make sense. I would agree too. Perhaps that's a difference in subtype, or maybe it's just in perspective?
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