ESFj-Si,
ENTp,
INFp,
ENTj-Te,
ESFp.
These are basically the types I like the most and think I have the potential for best relationships with. (outside Delta)
List your lists.
Favorite types outside of your quadra
ESFj-Si,
ENTp,
INFp,
ENTj-Te,
ESFp.
These are basically the types I like the most and think I have the potential for best relationships with. (outside Delta)
List your lists.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
Alpha
1) SEI
2) ILE
3) ESE/LII, can't say I've had much experience with either of them.
Beta
1) LSI
2) SLE
3) IEI
4) EIE-Ni
5) EIE-Fe
Gamma
1) ILI/SEE
2) LIE
3) ESI, since someone has to end up at this spot.
Overall:
ILI
SEE
LIE
LSI
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Alpha : ILE-Ti
Beta : LSI-Ti, EIE-Ni
Gamma: LIE, ESI-Fi
Delta: EII
--finest descriptions in the wiki :-D
Gamma
ILI
SEE- Se
LIE- Ni
Alpha
LII- Ti
ESE- Fe
SEI
I struggle with Deltas :/
ILE, SLE, Se-LSI, Ni-IEI, Te-SLI, EII.
ENTJ, ENFJ, and ESFJ
your conflictor?
your supervisor?
your supervisee?
your supervisee? your supervisor?
good answer
your supervisee?
I think you guys need a refresher on relations of conflict and supervision:
These relations require maximum carefulness. Leading function of your conflict partner coincides with your most painful function. He, thus, produces a flood of information about those aspects that you don't pay attention to and don't mention. Communication with a conflicting partner places you under constant tension. There is a sense of impending explosion beneath the surface. Opposite encoding of information leads to a feeling that literally every word of one's conflictor is annoying and brings up internal protest. At times, relations seem to be improving, but at the most inopportune moment conflictor suddenly tells something hurtful to you. Conflict relations can transpire smoothly if both partners are aware of their incompatibility and maintain sufficient distance, carefully trying to maneuver around "sharp corners".Much more strict are the relations of social control or audit. Supervisor's dominant function coincides with Supervisee's most vulnerable and painful function. However, in contrast to the relations of conflict, this situation is not symmetric. Supervisor can monitor every step the Supervisee takes, while Supervisee is powerless to resist this influence: all of his strong features "drown" in the appropriate function of the Supervisor. Supervisee tries to resist and even to fight back: puts on a show of deliberate crudeness, orders the Supervisor around, gives him assignments. Things may even progress to use of physical force. In this manner, Supervisee can create a lot of problems for the Supervisor, but the effect in the opposite direction is much more devastating. Close and prolonged contact with one's Supervisor, for example, in a family situation, can have dire consequences for the Supervisee, even the development of mental illness.
Subtype modifies the relations. Less focus on the base or creative function means less tension in interaction.
not nearly to that extent, or you're using a system that warps intertype relations into something completely meaningless
my weakest function is Ti whether I'm Fi-IEE or Ne-IEE, while the strongest function of both Ne-LII and Ti-LII is Ti; this is the basis for relations of supervision:
everything unsavory about supervisory relations follows from thisSupervisor's dominant function coincides with Supervisee's most vulnerable and painful function.
You might find this interesting. Not that it greatly expands on my point other than to put forward the theory that subtypes will emphasise either Base and Mobilising (along with the accompanying Ignoring and Vulnerable) or the Creative and Suggestive (along with Role and Demonstrative), with the justification that using logic will dampen ethics and using sensing will dampen intuition and vice versa.
The distinction seems to be one of gradience, that is, a Ne-ENFp is not an ENTp just because intuition (Ne and Ni) and logic (Te and Ti) use are heightened, but nonetheless, more emphasis is placed on intuition and logic instead of sensing and ethics.
It would make sense that with this in mind, you would find types hitting the weak functions of others more or less frequently depending on subtype.
I think the best litmus tests of intertype relations are romantic relationships and working together on a decent sized task that requires exchange of ideas, consensus and so on. It's then that you see the difficulties, rather than hanging out or idle chit chat where far less of the true self comes out.
I'm familiar with the theory of vertical subtypes, and to me it seems so... arbitrary. I do kind of agree with you, that subtypes do play a part in the "intensity" of intertype relations; for example, since Fi blocks Ti, Fi-IEE will feel more scrutinized by Ti-LII than by Ne-LII. However, if given enough time, I think Ne-LII would prove to be just as unbearable as Ti-LII for Fi-IEE, which seems to fit with what you're saying here:
I actually agree with this.
I don't like *most* people. In small doses they are fine.
Key word: small.
haha, fair enough
sidenote: are you sure you aren't SLI?
Positive.haha, fair enough
sidenote: are you sure you aren't SLI?
I loathe IEE.
I've had the unfortunate experience of being raised by one, lived with one (house mate), and had to socialize with some due to group dynamics.
From Alpha: SEI-Si (my boss, woot)
From Beta: ?
From Gamma: ILI-Ni, SEE
As we reach for the stars, we must put away childish things; gods, spirits and other phantasms of the brain. Reality is cruel and unforgiving, yet we must steel ourselves and secure the survival of our race through the unflinching pursuit of science and technology.
- Stellaris
Delta:
LSE>EII>SLI/IEE
I love Louie CK.
beta irrationals are closest to home after alpha irrationals for me, with the exception of an occasion lii crush.
i'm drawn to fe-creative and fi-polr... the camaraderie surrounding weakness in te/ fi (and general "who gives a fuck about these things??") is incredible
1. ILE, SEI
2. SEE/IEE
4.ESE, ILI, LII, EII-Ne - hit or miss, but usually nice and have the potential to be awesome
I usually get along better with irrationals.
,
EII
IEI
SLE
ESE-Si
SEI-Fe
ILI-Ni
ESI-Se
LSI-Se
EIE-Ni
LIE
This one depends on the person, but IEI-Fe. Have met some awesome as well as some crazy ones.
Within my own quadra I strongly prefer LSE-Si to LSE-Te. Don't seem to get along with SLIs much. Other EIIs are hit or miss. IEE-Fis are awesome.
ESFp and ENFp. fun, positive, not at all judgmental. ESFp in a large group, they keep everyone having fun. ENFp in a smaller group or one-on-one, interesting conversation and discussion.
Fi-ego types are often easy to get along with.
ENTj and ESFj are really cool.
ILE, LIE, SEI and ESE- works everytime with these- no fuss no effort -easy! (:
Last edited by miss BabyDoll; 12-26-2014 at 01:01 PM.
I can handle any irrational and any rational from any quadra rubs me the wrong way (or i them).
Edit: God I see a lot of ESE's in those lists. Those people make me so extremely nervous with their completely fucking up my personal space and all good intentioned scary butting in my business....
(haha yes i found an excuse to bitch about ESE's)
ILE, SEI, ESI, IEI
Unknown type, but I appreciate Gammas and Deltas. The most difficult for me to have decent/lasting relations with are Beta Extroverts.
I would probably say LII and ILE although I haven't had that much exposure to them. Whenever I hear of or meet them they seem very likeable
Last edited by Becca; 08-04-2014 at 03:04 AM.
Favourite non-Gammas:
ENFp
ISTj
INFp
ISTp
ENTp here. I love INFps.
None
SEI for sure!!
In small doses, and non-work related and in no particular order:
other Holographic Thinkers (ESI, SLE, LII)
IP temperaments (IEI, ILI) (I don't have the drive/energy of the J types, and find EPs to be too energy stimulating for comfort.)
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
IEE (semidual)
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
Female quasi-identicals are pretty hot.
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SEI for sure. Love-love-love.
Other than that, I don't really know. I met one amazing SEE but I wouldn't say all SEEs are like that simply because I don't have a lot of experience with them.
“I want the following word: splendor, splendor is fruit in all its succulence, fruit without sadness. I want vast distances. My savage intuition of myself.”
― Clarice Lispector
SLE and IEE
human flesh tastes like pork
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