The Dimensionality of Functions

[pianosinger]

So, it's no wonder SF types are the "Socials," being in tune not only with their own and others' physical vibrations/sensing, but also with spiritual vibrations/feelings.

SF types appeal to the soul.

NT's are justly called the "Researchers," or "Thinkers" in MBTI. Their focus is on both physical mentality/thinking and spiritual mentality/intuiting.

NT types appeal to the mind.

ST types are the most down-to-earth, "Pragmatic" types, being 100% in the physical plane, with physical vibration/sensing and physical mentality/thinking.

ST types appeal to the body.

NF types are aptly labeled "the Dreamers," or "Idealists," being caught up in the spiritual plane, with spiritual mentality/intuiting and spiritual vibration/feeling.

NF types appeal to the spirit.

[Creepy-male]

Spiritual sensations?

[rat1]

Spiritual sensations?

lol

Dimensionality of the actual functions has to be based on the mechanics of the functions. The aspects for those are field/object, static/dynamic, & internal/external.

[pianosinger]

lol

Dimensionality of the actual functions has to be based on the mechanics of the functions. The aspects for those are field/object, static/dynamic, & internal/external.

I get that. But that's getting into Extroverted and Introverted functions. I'm more talking about the four functions as undifferentiated, just looking at the essence, I guess.

But, perhaps we'll have to put exact semantics aside, because I fear I am not doing a good job of describing what's in my head.

Forget about the details. What of the general concept?

For instance, do my descriptions in the second post seem to ring true?

[pianosinger]

Spiritual sensations?

And, I did point out before that "sensual function" is probably not the best terminology (considering that there's already a "sensing" function); I just could not think of a better word... Maybe something having to do with vibes?

I'd appreciate it if people would take my crazy Ne bursts more seriously once in a while...

[Creepy-male]

I am, I just have no idea what "spiritual" is meant to refer to. Could you clarify?

[pianosinger]

I am, I just have no idea what "spiritual" is meant to refer to. Could you clarify?

Essentially, I'm thinking of "spiritual" in the sense of being non-physical, something outside of physical mechanics or observable science.

Thinking, then, being Physical, has more to do with how the brain works, making physical, nerological connections. Intuiting, on the other hand, is "Spiritual," in that the mind seemingly intuits with the help of something outside of the nervous system.

[Azeroffs]

This is interesting, but I'm unsure of how you're using some terms.

what do you mean by vibrational? Like sensual, but not physical? lol
basically, anti-mental?
edit: actually i get that now.

SF types appeal to the soul.

NF types appeal to the spirit.

What's the difference between soul and spirit?

[EyeSeeCold]

Forget about the details. What of the general concept?

For instance, do my descriptions in the second post seem to ring true?

The general concept exists, seems well-composed to me. As for ringing true, I can't say, but they seem accurate to my idea of those groups.

What's the difference between soul and spirit?

SF - Your body-feelings
NF - Your mind-feelings

SF soul seems like energy, or your body's vitality in terms of "feeling alive". Being active.
NF spirit seems like consciousness, the core of life which is connected to love, peace and harmony and higher purposes.

[pianosinger]

SF - Your body-feelings
NF - Your mind-feelings

SF soul seems like energy, or your body's vitality in terms of "feeling alive". Being active.
NF spirit seems like consciousness, the core of life which is connected to love, peace and harmony and higher purposes.

Yeah, that. Well put. Thanks

[pianosinger]

Okay, so apparently my idea of physical vs. spiritual is comparable to external vs. internal.

Where I don't see anything else to compare, is my idea that Sensing and Feeling have something in common (being "vibrational"); and Intuiting and Thinking have something in common (being "mental"). So, what are people's thoughts on that?

[EyeSeeCold]

Okay, so apparently my idea of physical vs. spiritual is comparable to external vs. internal.

Where I don't see anything else to compare, is my idea that Sensing and Feeling have something in common (being "vibrational"); and Intuiting and Thinking have something in common (being "mental"). So, what are people's thoughts on that?

http://forum.socionix.com/topic/3677...tion-elements/

SF = External Involved*Internal Involved
ST = External Involved*External Abstract
NT = Internal Abstract*External Abstract
NF = Internal Abstract*Internal Involved

SF = Involved Ego
ST = External Ego
NT = Abstract Ego
NF = Internal Ego

So, it's no wonder SF types are the "Socials," being in tune not only with their own and others' physical vibrations/sensing, but also with spiritual vibrations/feelings.

SF types appeal to the soul.

NT's are justly called the "Researchers," or "Thinkers" in MBTI. Their focus is on both physical mentality/thinking and spiritual mentality/intuiting.

NT types appeal to the mind.

ST types are the most down-to-earth, "Pragmatic" types, being 100% in the physical plane, with physical vibration/sensing and physical mentality/thinking.

ST types appeal to the body.

NF types are aptly labeled "the Dreamers," or "Idealists," being caught up in the spiritual plane, with spiritual mentality/intuiting and spiritual vibration/feeling.

NF types appeal to the spirit.

[pianosinger]

http://forum.socionix.com/topic/3677...tion-elements/

SF = External Involved*Internal Involved
ST = External Involved*External Abstract
NT = Internal Abstract*External Abstract
NF = Internal Abstract*Internal Involved

SF = Involved Ego
ST = External Ego
NT = Abstract Ego
NF = Internal Ego

Heh, yeah, I discovered the Abstract/Involved thing late last night...don't know how I missed it before.

So basically, all this stuff has already been thought of...Just given different names...

[Azeroffs]

http://forum.socionix.com/topic/3677...tion-elements/
SF = Involved Ego
ST = External Ego
NT = Abstract Ego
NF = Internal Ego

Those are the words I was looking for! Thank you for that.

Those are the best ways to describe the difference I think