True but this is the image in which we are cast, and it is often a difficult one to escape.
Interesting. Because from where I stand, and this is perhaps my own sense of negativism, but I wonder what ESEs see in LIIs.- @ logos- maybe it's just me and cuz im constantly around /, but i think the ESE/LII relationship may be easier to understand than the SEE/ILI relationship. idk, i can see how our relationship can be hard to grasp.