Which is most important to you? Having everything neat and tidy or having everything nice and clean ...
Order vs Cleanliness
Which is most important to you? Having everything neat and tidy or having everything nice and clean ...
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
I usually know where things are, even if the place is a complete tip. But usually, the place isn't clean or tidy.
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I prefer things to be clean over orderly. However, "clean" is a relative term here.
um, what's the difference?neat and tidy or having everything nice and clean
clean > orderly.
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i was curious, too. i assumed that neat and tidy would be like, the objects in the room are physically organized or something. so basically i thought this was a q about organization vs cleanliness. anyhow i'm a little like mysticsonic in that i can totally find anything i need. if it got bad enough where i couldn't find anything i needed, i'd probably start doing organizing eventually.Originally Posted by jessica129
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e.g. a choice btwn a bunch of dusty books lined up on your shelf or dust-free books in a pile on the floor ...
Last edited by Rubicon; 03-31-2008 at 02:59 PM.
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
Oh. Well then I definetly prefer things to be clean more than orderly.
It's strange how certain things can go completely neglected but others I clean obessively. My living area is completely trashed and do not care whatsoever to clean it. But my car...my car is immaculate. I bought a handy little sweeper and duster and i clean it obessively..a few times a day. I took my 15 minute work break and went out there and dusted everything and swept the whole car.
I know where everything is. Just because it looks like a hurricane went through doesn't mean I don't know where shit is!
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Exactly! Plus it's sort of like that Memory game - it keeps your brain active to remember in what position you left something.
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
Tidy would mean things are put away, but you haven't necessarily dusted your bookshelves or mopped your floors in a few months... that's what I thought it meant. I like both clean and tidy, but I have a hard time keeping up with things if I get really busy or I'm trying to finish a project.
Clean and tidy. This is something I require assistance with though.
I like things neat... but it hasn't been happening lately... I'm "working on it."
dont give a shit.
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I don't mind being disorganized, as long as the place stays clean under the mess. If the place becomes dirty, I have to organize in order to clean it, which is annoying.
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Just to be clear, by "order" do you mean "a place for everything and everything in its place"? And by "cleanliness" do you mean sanitation? Where does ambiance fit in to all of this?
does ambiance fit into it?
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Clean and tidy, but with my own personal touch. I like it lived in, homely, but kinda me.
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Definately. I always think throwovers on couches in the living room make a difference..(I got some new ones recently
That's what I'm asking. Orderliness and sanitation are practical matters, but many people like to keep things neat and tidy because they don't like looking at a mess.
Yeah - sure. Those definitions are good.
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
chaos i guess.
I don't mind disorder (my room is a mess), but I don't like dirt and grime. But I guess noone does. It's hard to motivate myself to tidy up and get stuff organised, but when I do, it's kind of fun and relaxing (given I don't have anything else to do). When someone else tries to get me to tidy up or tries to tidy up for me and ends up misplacing everything, that is very annoying.
Probably neither. My room smells easily. It's not messy really, but it's not that clean. It's like... 'in the middle' and I have a bad problem with odors. =p
Things appear kinda neat but they really are not, everything is just thrown under the bed or in this big blue bin and I have torn apart some of my favorite comic books and such via pure laziness. I should probably take better care of my stuff but you can't force me to care. It's not THAT bad- just insanely mediocre. Also let me know before you come so I can get the dried cum smell out and freshen the place up. Men stink. ;p
Perhaps clean > tidy if I had to choose, but I like things both clean and tidy and that's the way I tend to keep them. Uncleaned and unhygienic environment bothers me. Too much mess, especially dynamic-changing mess bothers me as well.
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I think I have some compulsive drive to have every thing clean and organized, unless I am working on some project that requires a mess of folders and papers, which I am doing now. My living space could also get messy and neglected if I simply do not have the time to clean it up, but otherwise I have been told that my room looks sorta like one from a military barracks
That being said, I happen to live with an IEE and a LSE, both of which are a freaken mess, any advice?
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Generally, my motto is "Why fight entropy?"
My living space has always been (and likely always will be) characterized by some degree of clutter. I'm not entirely disorganized-- I follow the "stacks" system of organization mentioned by others here. I *usually* know vaguely which stack of papers contains what I'm looking for, and try to keep the stacks to a manageable 4 or 5 distributed through 3 rooms. (Luckily, my home is small.) Occasionally, I'll attack a single pile of documents and file them, temporarily forestalling some of the pressure of impending chaos. My attempts at organization really amount to nothing more than stopgap measures.
The only rule is that nothing on the floor should be tripped over or otherwise seriously impede walking through a room.
Yet I cannot tolerate sheer "dirtyness". That is, I'm horrified to go into someone's house and see garbage on floors, old moldy glasses or mugs, half-eaten pizza crusts, and I'm talking where every solitary inch of space in the room is filled by some form of refuse mixed with papers, items, or whatnot. Basically, I just can't stand the thought of attracting cockroaches and or other pest species. Ugh.
I guess I vehemently draw the line where clutter becomes garbage.
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Your body does not live in a state of entropy, unless you die.Generally, my motto is "Why fight entropy?"
My living space has always been (and likely always will be) characterized by some degree of clutter. I'm not entirely disorganized-- I follow the "stacks" system of organization mentioned by others here. I *usually* know vaguely which stack of papers contains what I'm looking for, and try to keep the stacks to a manageable 4 or 5 distributed through 3 rooms. (Luckily, my home is small.) Occasionally, I'll attack a single pile of documents and file them, temporarily forestalling some of the pressure of impending chaos. My attempts at organization really amount to nothing more than stopgap measures.
The only rule is that nothing on the floor should be tripped over or otherwise seriously impede walking through a room.
Yet I cannot tolerate sheer "dirtyness". That is, I'm horrified to go into someone's house and see garbage on floors, old moldy glasses or mugs, half-eaten pizza crusts, and I'm talking where every solitary inch of space in the room is filled by some form of refuse mixed with papers, items, or whatnot. Basically, I just can't stand the thought of attracting cockroaches and or other pest species. Ugh.
I guess I vehemently draw the line where clutter becomes garbage.
Has anyone seen the show How Clean is Your House? What are the types of Kim and Aggie, who give houses a major cleaning makeover?
There are numerous episodes available on YouTube.com
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