I'd definitely say SEE > any other Gamma type.
I'm not sure if this topic is serious or not, but I have no trouble at all seeing you as an SEE, ScarlettLux. It makes more sense to me than Beta NF. I don't have a strong opinion on this though. I don't know you well enough.
Surprisingly enough, this thread IS serious ... disguised as not serious because I just don't have the energy to attempt to prove why I think I am not Beta NF. It would seem ludicrous to too many people who I've asserted my Beta-ness to.
Why do you think SEE makes most sense for me? I think that as well.
ETA: I think I have really misinterpretedin the Ego versus
Originally Posted by ScarlettLux
Surprisingly enough, this thread IS serious ... disguised as not serious because I just don't have the energy to attempt to prove why I think I am not Beta NF. It would seem ludicrous to too many people who I've asserted my Beta-ness to.
Why do you think SEE makes most sense for me? I think that as well.
ETA: I think I have really misinterpreted
Well I sure hope your as prepared as I am to go through all the bullshit "people" will give you that is obviously part of the process of changing quadras and clubs and everything else.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
I doubt she'll get the kind of resistance you have. I don't think there any blatant reasons she isn't SEE. (And she's never been *sure* of her type, which doesn't make a difference to me but it may to some.)
Don't you meanSurprisingly enough, this thread IS serious ... disguised as not serious because I just don't have the energy to attempt to prove why I think I am not Beta NF. It would seem ludicrous to too many people who I've asserted my Beta-ness to.
Why do you think SEE makes most sense for me? I think that as well.
ETA: I think I have really misinterpretedin the ego. And also SEE-s have
And I too don't really see problems with seeing you as SEE.
Woops! I mean yeah =]Don't you mean
And I too don't really see problems with seeing you as SEE.
Wow, really? I was totally expecting people to start bashing me ...
Actually... what about the LSI-s? Or do your misinterpretations of the IM-s run deep?
i'm not against SEE, but is ESE possible? also, while i couldnt ever see you as IEI, i forget what the problem with EIE was.
how do you get along with INTjs and INTps?
whenever the dog and i see each other we both stop where we are. we regard each other with a mixture of sadness and suspicion and then we feign indifference.
Jerry, The Zoo Story by Edward Albee
ESE ... lol, is definitely NOT possible. I put no value onat all. You could never see me as IEI? Why not? This is interesting.
EIE - well, I don't know ... I just switched back to IEI because I thought I was really more introverted and needed an extravert dual. Then again, I did this "switch" when I was in the depths of depression and wasn't doing much at all. I mean, I just don't think it's right that when I'm "depressed" I identify with IEI and then when I'm "happy" I am really EIE/SEE ?
Well, my last relationship was with an LII... ok that was a disaster and a half. We still to this day can not communicate with one another. This was the time I actually believed him to be ILI and I think I behaved extremely like an SEE and it was horrible for both of us. He hatesand needs
I think he tried to mold himself to fit my needs, my love of
Another funny thing is that while I do identify with Victim, I ACT like an Aggressor for nearly all my relationships ... I think - "Okay, I like this person, I'm gonna get them no matter what.."
There's a lot more ... that's going to offend Alpha quadraAlpha values annoy me a lot, I don't know why I believed I liked this quadra before. Maybe I had the wrong idea, but since the recent influx of SEIs, I go on the sub-forum place and ... wow, I have huge headaches just reading the stuff they talk about. It seems senseless to me, just rambling.
Also, I don't like real life Alpha quadra members, the way they interact in groups seems very cheesy to me, and way too focused on being "comfortable" and "nice" to eachother. Everyone seems so fluffy and innocent, aka boring.
I can't say I have any experience with ILIs in real life. I don't think I have ever come into close contact with one. Come to think of it, I have not had much interaction with Gamma quadra at all. They seem very rare, except for the SEEs LOL. Yeah, I am really good friends with two SEEs, we seem to gel and "get eachother" and surprisingly enough, I am not annoyed by them as I am with EIEs or IEIs. I thought that annoyance came from seeing someone like myself ... but is it right to be annoyed by your own type/mirror type?
Okay, too much for now, brain needs rest. Body needs movement!
I have no idea really. I wanted to mention something Expat said about not "liking" the type you are. I've never actually "liked" the idea of being an IEI... I always thought SEE was pretty much a cool type, probably the best. It's my "ideal" almost. I think it's the best type to be, and Expat said if you don't think your own type is the "best", there must be something off.
Also - I've been suffering from depression, anxiety, all that fun stuff for a while this year. I'm even on anti-depressants now (yeah, ugh) ... so that has seriously messed up who I am really...
I do think I am really an extrovert. At least in terms of Jung's definition of extrovert and introvert... I'm doing an essay on his typology theory and had to read a shitload about this. The parts about mental illnesses the extrovert is likely to have if his "shadow" introvert side takes over REALLY fits me ... it's basically what I'm suffering from right now.
When I am "normal" or when I am "happy" ... I behave mostly like an EIE or an SEE. In my less messed up days, like 2 years ago or something, I was definitely behaving like an SEE.
Yeah, I would agree with that. And I think that applies for ones dual as well.
I think you might have had clouded vision, as in, your interpretation of socionics created expectations you tried to live up too. The things UDP is doing. Personally I didn't take your claims of LSI excellence seriously. Or any otehr deeply subjective stance. I took them more as mental exploration kind of things. You introducing yourselves to socionics.
Yeah, that can mess up your self perception. Also if I remember correctly a similar thing was with joy when she first got into typology. She was generally feeling shitty and because of it end up as a MBTI INFJ.Also - I've been suffering from depression, anxiety, all that fun stuff for a while this year. I'm even on anti-depressants now (yeah, ugh) ... so that has seriously messed up who I am really...
I want to say well that's good, as in, in terms of theory, but I can see how it might be misinterpreted. I'd say jung's original definitions and explanations would correlate to socionics ones. Although there is no part of socionics that deals with mental health so I'm not sure about that part.I do think I am really an extrovert. At least in terms of Jung's definition of extrovert and introvert... I'm doing an essay on his typology theory and had to read a shitload about this. The parts about mental illnesses the extrovert is likely to have if his "shadow" introvert side takes over REALLY fits me ... it's basically what I'm suffering from right now.
Hmm, SEE would be providing a push/kick while being social/ethical. Being enthusiastic, jumping from interest to interest. Not being concerned with the structure behind the observed, just "playing" with it. Would you say you were something like this?When I am "normal" or when I am "happy" ... I behave mostly like an EIE or an SEE. In my less messed up days, like 2 years ago or something, I was definitely behaving like an SEE.
As long as you understand the type; however, you did seem to understand the IEI type and above all the duality with SLE. Which I now find puzzling. You thought you were a Victim and Se-seeking, now that you are an Aggressor and Ni-seeking?
Anyway, if one of your top motivations is "attention-seeking", SEE is the only Gamma type that possibly fits imo.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
I don't really have a good explanation. It's just an impression I get from your manner of speech.
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