ESFjs: ditzy and air-headed?

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implied, your observation is not unreasoned, but it only proves that the dudes in cause don't really studied in depth what sensing and intuition actually means

so in consequence, the dudes are "shallow" (no offence mates), not the functions

I don't know if I'm understanding you right.. but I may agree with you?

I was thinking along the lines that an intuitive who is more prideful and doesn't try to investigate things further could also be considered shallow as well.

i think you pretty much said what i was thinking, rocky.

here's why i object to this:

sometimes i get the feeling that there are sensors (on this very board!) who refuse to be labeled as sensors, simply because all they've heard is that sensing is "shallow" and "dumb," so they go on it and choose the one that they think people think is more socially acceptable, more attractive, and label themselves as intuitive. that's not a surprise.

but that doesn't really help anyone figure out their type, does it?

Yeah - socionics peer pressure.

And guess what - the sensors outnumber us IRL and they basically run things, so makes sense to try to understand how they think, not make them go undercover as intuitive.