I checked that Russian site again ( http://ru.laser.ru/ ) and discovered two absurd mistypings: Bill Clinton and Michael Jackson are put in the ENTj gallery. Such a mistake is unforgivable and unexplainable. A complete idiot must have made that typing.
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perhaps, but you both let your frustrations turn into something less than appropriate. As for Clint Eastwood: I also think ISTj, he is too confrontational and aggressive about his ideology, whereas an INTj would be more involved with their ideology and researching and developing it. But ido not know a whole lot.
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Because if you are a political conspirator, your are not openly aggressive. You act behind the scene. You are like a snake, hiding in the bush. Ernst Kretschmer has written a very illuminating description of Robespierre's personality. Unfortunately I only have it in Swedish. Maybe I could try to translate it, but it would take some time.
Alphas are aggressive. Have you ever met an ESFj or ISFp, they basically are moving out of their skin. They have this idea that they are super busy and they are really really aggressive. They have explosive bursts of emotions when someone does something that aggravates them like leave the house messy or something. They are really take charge. INTjs and ENTps are overly rebellious. I'd imagine that there are a lot of INTjs and ENTps in punk and alternative bands that are overly rebellious. I think Billie Joe Armstrong is an ENTp from Green Day. Dave Grohl is probably ENTp. There are a lot of actor ENTps and probably INTjs. I'm telling you, you have the wrong picture of INTjs and INTps.
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Aggressive ISFps!? You are delusional. Totally mad. Are you on drugs?
This is not funny anymore. Don't you realize that? You seem to be totally trapped in the ridiculous idea that Mirror types are similar in behaviours. ISFp are completely the opposite of what you describe here in most situations. It only fits ESFjs to some extent. ISFps are not like that. Period.Originally Posted by hitta
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that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.
but what if he is?! just what if he is? you cannot ever prove his type. you may argue endlessly, and even i've presented an argument, but there will never be proof of his type. Anyway, i wanted to tell you this so next time you think about cursing other people and looking foolish on the internet you think about the situation and how little emotion is necessary.
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He simply can't be. Don't you see that he can't? Is there anything, anything at all, that suggests that he is an ISTj -- except the obvious fact that he is an IT type?
ISTjs are different. I hate to use words like "aura" and such bullshit, but I know what ISTjs are like, I can intuitively sense the difference, and the ISTj "aura" is not there. He does not V.I. as an ISTj, and he does not behave like an ISTj, he does not talk like an ISTj, and an ISTj would never do the kind of films he has made. Isn't that enough for you?
How do you know that? You are clearly prejudiced here. Some people's types are so obvious that they can not be disputed -- ever. Eastwood's type is not that obvious, but it would probably be possible to prove that he is not an ISTj. In any case you know for certain that he is an IT type, don't you? (Because a person who is unable to tell that much should not participate in these discussions.)Originally Posted by heath
I wonder which kind of movies ISTjs are "allowed" to make?
Also, which movies has Eastwood "made" out of some deep inner motivation - so reflecting his quadra values - and which has he made for fun, or to get money? Is Every Which Way -- But Loose , the one with the monkey, a reflection of his type?
The mind boggles.
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that monkey was hilarious.