He is probably the most well known INTj. He is incredibly individualist and creative. Most Russian Socionists type him as INTj as well just to reinforce this.
Clint Eastwood
He is probably the most well known INTj. He is incredibly individualist and creative. Most Russian Socionists type him as INTj as well just to reinforce this.
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Who? At least two Russian sources - Lytov and the authors of socionics.org - type Eastwood as ISTj.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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Theres quote a few sources that thinks hes an INTj. Theres no way he is ISTj. He is way too individualistic. If you knew anything about Clint you would know that he is probably INTj.
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If you want to make a case that he's INTj, fine; but unless you can quote at least three different Russian sources that say he's INTj - since I quoted two - your claim of "most" Russian sources was just hot air.
Fuck off, I could care less what you think of my statements. I don't care if you believe me or not.
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Well, I do care that others might buy your "most Russian socionists" bullshit. That's why I called it.
fwiw, I definitely do not see a Se PoLR in him (and Se PoLR's tend to stick out to me)
Also, he's not only AN INTj, but he's also THE prototypical INTj?
Carla, Logos, thehotelambush -- you've failed as INTjs.
Are you mentally retarded, or did you snort some unknown powdered substance when you were a teen?Also, he's not only AN INTj, but he's also THE prototypical INTj?
Carla, Logos, thehotelambush -- you've failed as INTjs.
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They aren't mutually exclusive, you know.
Well, hitta never implied exclusivity--he did ask an OR and not an XOR question, after all.
OTOH, known powdered substances are usually much more fun than the unknown ones.
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Calm down wee man, eh?
But, now seriously --
So now hitta has provided one clear example of someone famous whom he sees clearly as of a type, that is, Clint Eastwood as INTj.
ETA: of course, it should be very obvious to everyone that Clint Eastwood and hitta are identicals. (jk)
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Links please. This is an interesting subject to discuss.
Well, at least one thing is clear. Eastwood is not an ISTj. INTj is actually a more likely type if he is not an ISTp as Ganin suggests. Eastwood seems to haveHA, and IP temperament, and his world outlook is inconsistent with ISTj. Besides, he does not V.I. as ISTj.
I think Clint Eastwood has an SLI flair about him. His films are fundamentally Delta; he's entirely uninterested in Bayesque bombastic destruction and/or adventure. His films have a gentle, peaceful pace. Even in Flags of Our Fathers the battle scenes are moderate; they're not as intense as say, Saving Private Ryan or The Thin Red Line.
I agree. Similarly with Letters From Iwo Jima or Million Dollar Baby. I'm very much a fan of his work to date.
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
Pale Rider was quintessential ISTp
So anyway.
It would appear that the general consensus for Eastwood currently stands at ISTp. Any other types to consider?
PS So far Hitta has been able to provide nothing to say otherwise. So he may be INTj, but current evidence says he's not, where as there's nothing to say he is.
What current evidence would that be?
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I don't want to get into a circular debate with you, i've got other people to mail. Have a look through the pages were people have discussed it. Look at what I wrote, what LokiV wrote, what Steve wrote. Surely you must be keeping up with the thread instead of listening to yourself?
ISTj. (And I would let Expat support this argumentatively if he is willing to)
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
From looking at his interviews, and on what he says and others have said about him, I'd guess ISTj too. As far as his movies are concerned (ie those in which he had creative control), as far as I know them, I think it's a mixed bag. Moreover, as Eastwood himself acknowledges, at least his westerns (like Pale Rider) were heavily influenced by his westerns with Sergio Leone, and I would argue that his characters there were ISTp, so that may be one reason.
However, I can't make a strong case, here, for ISTj>ISTp; it's not as if I know that much about him as a person.
Yeah I concur with ISTj.
INFp
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Thinking about it again, I think he probably is LSI. Hmm, there goes another one, lol.
I just wished everyone appreciated the SLI coolness, some bosses mistake it for non-productivity on first glance i've found in the past.
Although, where I am just now at work, seems I have the right balance of being regarded as cool and a producer, but seems not to happen overnight.
Hmm..a lot of this was random, hope that's OK, but I felt like it :-o
Yes, I've changed him to LSI too along the way.
On my job there is such a LSI-clinteastwood subtype working.
My ESTj dad hates him.
then it's settled; Clint Eastwood is Te-ISTp.
I doubt any SLI or LSI acts like him. He has to be LII, hitta is correct. He's definitely not ISTp or any, he definitely also values
. Definitely. Fe/Ti "A good man always knows his limitations.”
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Or perhaps you should reconsider your type?
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
ISTJ
It's not. I had a look to famo.ru base, only 2/10 typed him as INTJ, and 7/10 typed as sensory type.
Not sure if I posted in this thread before.
I'm currently leaning towards LSI, although I think it's fairly easy to understand why SLI is also commonly suggested. I like him as an actor generally, and he gives the perception of being quite a calm, polite guy. I don't think such behaviour is alien to either type.
He doesn't strike me as someone who is a natural, passive observer who is happy to let things go as you might expect with a IP temperament, neither does he seemed to be a person who is described as naturally relaxed. People of many personality types would relate somewhat to his badass introverted characters...my perception is that movies by more SLI-like characters would be less prone to monotonous monologues (although of course he has played such characters).
Why not SLE over LSI? I find Clint Eastwood more tough/aggressive than analytical (i.e., Se-leading > Ti-leading). For instance, an LSI character solving a problem in a movie would be analysing, reflecting, thinking, investigating, and would be aggressive at times, perhaps only when necessary. Clint Eastwood seems to be almost always the opposite. I suspect he might have some kind of analytical side, but I find him cast in such a way that he is always yelling, knocking down doors, fighting with people, etc. I would think of LSI as more of a thinking person - e.g., Christopher Langan or Mike Mentzer. Therefore, this would be more in favour of SLE over LSI for me...
Doubtlessly LSI. Probably Ti subtype, Sx/sp or Sp/sx. Enneagram 9w8 maybe.
I think he's Te-SLI, but Se-LSI as an alternative is possible for Clint Eastwood. I agree with him on this point whether he's my dual or conflictor:
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6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
LSI to the maxxx
I never got the appeal of him. Too masculine for me. I need a guy a bit more fruity than him, actually.
And he seems really Te.
LSI
LSI-Se
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I like his energy/feel a lot. Seems like something of great importance fills him.
I vote LSI too.
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