so who did you bully into writing this for you? typical SLE move
so who did you bully into writing this for you? typical SLE move
i hope you wouldn't claim that all, or even most people do some of these things (though it obviously varies by individual).
Bravo, Herzy. UDP - this sums up what I wanted to say to you when you asked me just what I thought was wrong with your "Dinner with IEI" thread.
Dee is a real person, and that is what terrifies me. He also lives very close to me, apparently. I remember we were actually about to set up a Socionics meet type thing near Toronto or Mississauga ... I wonder what would happen if we actually did meet. I could inform you all if he is as crazy as he comes off here.
Is that even possible? With people like Dio and stuff, I really have to wonder just what they are as REAL life people ... *shudders*
lol
I don't have much to add to this thread other than I agree 100% with everything Herzy has said. It's everything I've been thinking for awhile now. I don't come here to read up on socionics anymore...frankly I find it pointless. I only come here because I enjoy the forum. More people need to read this thread and take it to heart.
herzy makes some very good points about the tendency to get sucked into a socionics vortex which limits one's thinking....esp early on in understanding this theory.
we are organisms that exist in an environment and that grow and change over time. trying to say that socionics explains everything simply isn't logical since it would fail to take into consideration the facts and details of a person's life and experiences.
like you could have an LSI who had to endure a Nazi concentration camp and one that lived free and clear in the USA. these different situations and the experiences that would accompany them are going to have a profound impact on the person.
my personal pet peeve about socionics is that it does not do a very good job of explaining how people change, grow, develop and balance themselves as they get older.
to me, socionics is kind of like a skeleton of personality....it can kind of inform the shape or structure of a person, but without the skin, muscles, blood, brain, and a changing environment to place the person in, it's less than half the overall picture.
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those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
Dee might not, but people who might listen to and get confused by dee and others like him can benefit from this.
Good job, Herzy! If I think of more specific comments I'll be sure to post them, but for now it looks good! (It's good writing, too - I like the numbered points...)
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
It's probably not obvious to people who are new to the theory or this forum. Sometimes, it's not even obvious to people who have been here awhile. And, sometimes, people just forget.
I'm sure you already know this, but not everyone is as smart or intelligent as you, niffweed.
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
I enjoyed reading this a lot, Herzy.
Just made a much shorter comment along these lines in some other thread, and now I feel like "D'oh! It just got said- and better!"
Not a bad thing, at all ...
SLIOriginally Posted by Charles Bukowski