I'm thinking of EIE.
I'm thinking of EIE.
Last edited by silke; 07-26-2014 at 10:38 PM. Reason: updated links
I don't think she's EIE or even beta.
ISTj~Ti, 8w9
Knowing others is intelligence;
knowing yourself is true wisdom.
Mastering others is strength;
mastering yourself is true power.
-Lao Tzu
EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
E3 (probably 3w4)
Cool ILI hubbys are better than LSIs any time!
Old blog: http://firsttimeinusa.blogspot.com/
New blog: http://having-a-kid.blogspot.com/
EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
E3 (probably 3w4)
Cool ILI hubbys are better than LSIs any time!
Old blog: http://firsttimeinusa.blogspot.com/
New blog: http://having-a-kid.blogspot.com/
I think she VI's like ENFp.
I don't think we can take her diet too much into consideration. Many celebs have unusual eating habits to try to stay thin, irrespective of type.
She is so hot and cool! What's her type?
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I think she's ISFp.
I think, she's some pushy-looking -+0 EII.
Lol. I wanted to post "the history of where we had gotten with this before." I didn't mean it as any "rebuff" or anything... I don't care if we start ten new threads on Gwen Stefani (or anyone). I thought it might be helpful to have the "whole picture" *cough* of what our collective brainpower has come up with.
You know, in all honesty, she looks Beta NF to me... EIE. And she makes fascinating music videos that are really quirky and unusual that seem to create whole new worlds. It seems sort of . But you know, that sort of thing isn't exclusively . I wouldn't rule out Alpha. Bah. I'll stop now.
i love her.
to me she seems SEI.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
She is SEI because I said so, I'm SEI and I have seen her IRL.
We have similar tastes in fashion, looool! ^_^
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She is clearly very physically confident, and likes to personally cultivate her appearance. SEE. - or failing that, SLE.
http://lifeandhealth.guardian.co.uk/...139305,00.html'I try not to be but I'm super-neurotic about diet,' she says. 'I'm neurotic about trying not to be neurotic! I'm like every other girl. I have to try really hard my whole life to try to be fit. And I'm super-vain. And I want to wear cute clothes. You know, I was chubby when I was a little girl. And I have all those issues everyone else has. But I try not to. And I've learnt over the years that it's such a waste of time. And people like me whether I'm a little bit fatter or not.'
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Like her music, her style is sexy but also out there - eclectic, almost aggressive. She's no victim, and certainly no fashion victim. With someone like Victoria Beckham, you can see that a stylist has decided what she's going to wear and put it together piece by piece, but Gwen's style always seems organic
do you really think so? britney seems totally SEE to me. total EP temperament, impulsive, Fi creative.
gwen, in the letterman interview has that alpha openness and is clearly more Fe. i think SEI's can come across as extremely confident and assertive. i'm sure she's had to develop that being in show business, too.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
She did not write that song.
Also if you look at interviews she is way too calm and relaxed to be EP temperament.
As far her being impulsive; she was not always on drugs like that. Or whatever mental issues she going through.
Spears is SEI. As is Stefani. You have to look past the image that has been created around them.
Old interview of Stefani before she got famous.
I think she is quite SEI here.
ILE
I’m inclined to agree with the SLE-Ti typing of her.
Gwen Stefani: Ti-ESTp (Normalizing or Dominant subtype) [Fi-ESTp or Fe-ESTp (ESTp-ISFj or ESTp-EXFj)]
I used to think she was EIE (years ago). Superficially, she might be confused with one, although I doubt she is.
http://gwenstefaniweb.yaia.com/interviews.html
http://www.musicomh.com/music/features/gwen-stefani.htm
http://www.robertchristgau.com/get_a...?name=No+Doubt
“Tragic Kingdom [Trauma/Interscope, 1995]
Like any pop skyrocket, Gwen Stefani is video-driven, and so hebephrenic you know she unprotests too much. The production's as bizzy as the Ivy at lunchtime, too. But this act's real problem is ska. Since the dawn of two-tone there hasn't been a single band in the style--excluding the punk Rancid but including Madness and the Specials--that was as songful as its fun-besotted partisans claimed. When that hippity-hop beat is hyped up for postpunk consumption, its energy somehow precludes tune. Not that she could sing in the same shower as classic Cyndi Lauper anyway. But classic Belinda Carlisle is another story. C+
Return of Saturn [Interscope, 2000]
Gwen Stefani is forced to battle the perception that she's shallow because shallow is what she is. Like any human being, she has real feelings, but they run about as deep as her hair color and her commitment to ska, and wasn't it polite of me not to bring up her gift for the pithy phrase and the catchy tune? Occasionally her pushing-30 doubts about the single life are touching, like when she imagines Gavin Rossdale would make a good dad. But after five years, two producers, one Spin cover, and one lead review in Rolling Stone, the single Interscope sent her back to the salt mines for is the best thing on her automatic-platinum follow-up. So maybe marriage wouldn't be such a bad idea. No no no, not to Gavin--better she should land a really nice accountant. They have feelings too. C+”
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Last edited by mfckr; 12-29-2014 at 01:14 AM.
I agree with SLE for Gwen.
Alpha/Beta. Definitely Merry Sensing Ego, so I could go for SEI or SLE, but my impression was always the latter.
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I have her as SLE, still undetermined on subtype but leaning Ti-SLE...
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
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I've somehow always related to Gwen a whole lot. Idk if that's got to to with her sociotype (i see she's been typed a bunch of types here - SLE, EIE and SEI) or with her enneagram type - I've seen 4w3 and 3w4 thrown around for her.
So, what do you think her type is? It's kinda weird how different she coms off in her old interviews from her new ones.
"Magic's In The Makeup"
Can you tell I'm faking it? But I want to be myself
A counterfeit disposition
Can't be good for my health
So many different faces
Depending on the different phases
My personality changes
I'm a chameleon
There's more than one dimension
I can fool you and attract attention
Camouflage my nature
Let me demonstrate...
Makeup's all off
Who am I?
Magic's in the make up
Who am I?
If you bore me then I'm comfortable
If you interest me I'm scared
My attraction paralyzes me
No courage to show my true colors that exist
But I want to be the real thing
But if you catch my eye can't be authentic
The one's I loath are the one's that know me the best
My makeup's all off
Who am I?
The magic's in the make up
Who am I?
The makeup's all off
Who am I?
If the magic's in the make up
Then who am I?
Magic's in the makeup
But I want to be real the thing
But the magic's in the makeup
And I want to be the real thing
My makeup's all off
Who am I?
"Simple Kind Of Life"
For a long time I was in love
Not only in love, I was obsessed
With a friendship that no one else could touch
It didn't work out, I'm covered in shells
And all I wanted was the simple things
A simple kind of life
And all I needed was a simple man
So I could be a wife
I'm so ashamed, I've been so mean
I don't know how it got to this point
I always was the one with all the love
You came along, I'm hunting you down
Like a sick domestic abuser looking for a fight
And all I wanted was the simple things
A simple kind of life
If we met tomorrow for the very first time
Would it start all over again?
Would I try to make you mine?
I always thought I'd be a mom
Sometimes I wish for a mistake
The longer that I wait the more selfish that I get
You seem like you'd be a good dad
Now all those simple things are simply too complicated for my life
How'd I get so faithful to my freedom?
A selfish kind of life
When all I ever wanted was the simple things
A simple kind of life
Artificial Sweetener"
Oh yes I'm guilty
For leasing myself out
Not ready to go up for sale
Can't seem to give it up
Stubborn, so selfish
I'm showing off the worst in me
The return of Saturn
Assessing my life
Second guessing...
I'm full of artificial sweetener
My heart's been deceitful
It's all artificial sweetener
I'm faking I love you's
You're forcing me to
You really deserve love
I want to love you
But I can't seem to find myself
My wilting effort
Our progress report
I'm only sure that I'm not sure
I shudder to be honest
Who's behind it all now?
Who's the author?
I'm full of artificial sweetener
My heart's been deceitful
It's all artificial sweetener
I'm faking I love you's
You're forcing me to
Re-read, re-write, redo, undo
I'm stuck on this page
I was born two weeks late
Is that why I hesitate?
I'm on the fence
Push me off it
I want to be on your side now
And keep a promise
I'm full of artificial sweetener
My heart's been deceitful
It's all artificial sweetener
My heart's been deceitful
I'm faking I love you's
You're forcing me to
"Comforting Lie"
I started out on the wrong foot
Now I'm not myself
I am Jekyll, I am Hyde
Found this place to hide
Come seek me
Oh, so up and down
So back and forth
So insecure
Can't get this taste out of my mouth
Swallow it down
Pretend
Hold it, hold it all in
Let it build up
Build a bomb
Blow it, blow it away
Clear it all out
Just end it
I'm just a normal person
Without those problems
When did it change?
Admissions so embarrassing
I'm on the verge of tears again
Hold it, hold it all in
Let it build up
Build a bomb
And blow it, blow it away
Clear it all out
Just end it
Oh look I took the Band-Aid off
Did I take it off too soon?
Hysterical confession
My big courageous move
Don't gasp at the predictable
A comforting lie can't last
Preordained checklist of this awkward love
It's so sad
Hold it, hold it all in
Let it build up
Oh, build a bomb
Blow it, blow it away
Clear it all out
Just end it
Sort it, sort it out
Just give it back
No thank you
Toss it, toss it away
Eliminate
Just give up
I can't decide
This tug of war
I'm feeling weak
"Platinum Blonde Life"
I'm closing all the curtains
So don't you even bother
And they'm calling out the murder
But I'm underneath the covers
And who's fooling who
With this mood like a train
Watch me roll over
Get out of my way
[Chorus:]
There's a knock on my door
But I'm not gonna open it
I'm gonna close my eyes
And maybe it will go away
I want a platinum blonde life
So I keep bleaching out the colors
I try to do what I oughta
But never drink enough water
Where did my lamb go?
I wish he could stay
I feel as empty as a widow
I'm gonna sleep it all away
[Repeat chorus]
I'm gonna sleep all trough the day
I'm gonna sleep my life away
I'm gonna sleep all through the day
I'm gonna sleep myself away
I'm gonna close my eyes and maybe it'll go away
@darya I'd say SLE 3w4 sx/so. The enneatype and sx instinct might make her come across as ethical superficially.
Possible, although when I think of who she'd dualize with, somehow IEI seems like a better option than ILI tbqh. Sure 6w7 is possible, I still think e3 somewhere in tritype then, her image seems too polished to be e3-free.
So what do we have now? SLE>SEE 63X or 36X sx/so. What about last fix? e9?
She's def Se leading, I used to have problems with differentiating EIE's and SEE's in celebrities : )
I relate to her lyrics because of her love of makeup and love, but when she was younger she used to be quite a tomboy and is strangely non-independant and cheesy for 3w4 : ) She also has zero arrogance, the way I see her she's super humble, even if she's polished. Don't know what to think. E9 fix, definitely.
She could be 7. She is too "weird" for a 3, her music videos are always weird and quirky and creative.
And I think this song is really weird. She should be feeling crazy feelings but she just says "we are cool " its weird to me, hah.
Look at her here: Not very 3ish.. look at her body language and posture too. And shes soo enthusiastic. She reminds me of one of my 7 friends.
Btw, I dont think she is THAT different now from when she was young. Her style has changed, yeah, but thats pretty much it (+ botox so she looks more emotionless) Shes still positive and enthustiastic in every interview i've seen with her.
I'd say Si ego. Her expressions and her way of talk are really slow even if she enjoys projecting otherwise on scene. Another choice would be EII, she reminds me of Kristen Stewart who I think is EII. Obviously the look of Gwen is drastically different, but their way of talk and move is similar.
She looks somehow unemotional to me. Kind of cold, lazy, sluggish behind all her make up.
The difference on the image she projects on pictures, videos and stage and her real self is evident in this one with scenes from the shooting. She knows how to stand, how to pose, how to smile, how to sell. Actually I think she hides a lot of her unemotional and introverted being with the big static smile.
Her lyrics aren't really 4ish even if she wants to stand out with her look, I'd say 3w4 and 9 on tritype.
I've heard that she's really smart, like she knows what to do on Hollywood and what image project to the public to sell and she's extremely polite socially.
Last edited by Hope; 07-19-2017 at 06:37 AM.