Dreaming One, thats a great story and a terrific post. Thank you very much. It goes along with what Ive been noticing too. I think we get used to what works with other people and dont realize that istps will sometimes do the exact opposite of what is expected. Even when it works against them. Enfps may be conditioned to use more than is needed for istps. They need lots of understanding and gentle care. All those descriptions about them being 'hard as nails' do not apply in an emotional sense.