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Yeah, I think Si types, especially Delta ST's, are some of the most useful types.Originally Posted by Diana
That makes no sense. They're one of the most useful as soon as you need your car fixed. . . or something built out of legos.
Well, I can't fix cars. I don't do much of anything with my life. I accomplish next to nothing.
One of the SLI's uses comes from practical activities. There's few if any types that can beat them at that sort of thing.
Okay, maybe when forced to do a task that requires "practical" skills and common sense, then yes, I would say they're quite useful in that regard.
I hate to play on the stereotypes, but for the most part their true. I've found myself being able to build kitchens, bathrooms and generally fix things with an aptitude at least as good as other people who have been doing that sort of stuff for ages. To us these things are common sense..and coz it's natural you might not realise how good you are, until you compare it to other people..like you say..common sense
What's awesome is that the type that some would say are useless... other's may say are the most helpful. From this alone we can see that this is a retarded conversation all together.
+1
Although some people are not as aware of their strengths as they should be
lol, I'm very aware of mine... and for the life of me, can't imagine actually being useless to people, generally speaking.
Thought so myself. You seem like quite a together guylol, I'm very aware of mine... and for the life of me, can't imagine actually being useless to people, generally speaking.
haha, i'm totally fucking quoting you on this. i actually agree 100%.
Irrational, introverted, intuitive. Some of the most unbiased opinions I've heard come from IEIs. It's like running freely through space without having a clear path defined by some arbitrary logic system. Just information stacked one over another, making a complex representation of the real world. It's not surprising to me that most IEIs end up with the conclusion that nothing really matters; because there is really no order behind the scenes, only a compulsion of the human race to give a meaning to something which doesn't have any. It reminds me the swedish movie The Seventh Seal.it's true I do feel useless, really. I'm being honest when I say that if I died now, it would be of no detriment to society. sure, those who love me would be sad, but in the grand scheme of things, my death will mean absolutely nothing. no one cares about+
. "oh, what's that?" they'll say. "it's cute, but I didn't know that was of any importance in this life."
I appreciate IEIs a lot.
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You know what? You're an individual, and that makes people nervous. And it's gonna keep making people nervous for the rest of your life. - Ole Golly from Harriet, the spy.
i don't know what mine are, Ive been trying to figure it out my whole lifelol, I'm very aware of mine... and for the life of me, can't imagine actually being useless to people, generally speaking.
... luckily Ti types are naturally conceited and self confident.
i also have no idea why the thread was posted. maybe because it makes no sense Fe wise.
Look at the reaction you get from putting yourself down Glam.
We all have our own point and path, and we define them ourselves as we go along. This thread wasn't serious to begin with, but if it had been it would have been asking each voter to use their own definitions of "use".Fuck you.
Well anyway, you see Joy, if you want to think of any type as useless you first have to try and tell us what the point or use is, which you don't. You're claiming uselessness in something when the very nature of 'use' has never been found in the first place. Not good.
There isn't any use or point to *anything.* And everything. At all. Life itself (and everything in it, including socionics) *is* pointless/nihilistic/useless, but it's up to each individual to find their own meaning. It can seem very pointy and wonderful, but it's all just an illusion. Illusions aren't bad or hopeless either- they're grand, you can embrace a dream for its own sake. If dreams always have to come a reality- don't they kind of lose their power? This doesn't mean that life is a bad thing though, life is actually very great because of this reason. That there is a point or some sort of 'path' is very bigoted and heterosexist actually. There's no use in anything. Stop looking at things in that way.
It's not about use. It's about gestures. What you think of having 'use' you just like it because of its GESTURE - not 'use.' I realize this is heavy
That's an interesting way to spin this thread.That there is a point or some sort of 'path' is very bigoted and heterosexist actually.
Last edited by Joy; 02-26-2008 at 01:41 PM.
eh we're all fucking useless. look how much time we spend on this dippy forum??!!
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
Some people are more useless than others. You, for example
I've just noticed that no one voted for SLE. Because they can't. It's not an option. Instead, there are two LSEs. One which one person has voted for, the other which no one has voted for. If I was an LSE, I'd like to be the LSE that no one voted for.
yeah i'm pretty useless. for sure.Some people are more useless than others. You, for example
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
*poke* No you're not.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
ok...but i can be pretty useless at times. LOL
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
Naw man, I agree with you. I mean wtf, Si? Like, making myself feel good? Big whoop.
"Those who make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities..."
- Voltaire
......oh yeah.That makes no sense. They're one of the most useful as soon as you need your car fixed. . . or something built out of legos.
I retract my previous post. <yoink>
"Those who make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities..."
- Voltaire
It's unlikely that people vote useless for their conflictor. They might dislike them, but considering them useless, no.
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You know what? You're an individual, and that makes people nervous. And it's gonna keep making people nervous for the rest of your life. - Ole Golly from Harriet, the spy.
Usually, conflicting relations aren't that bad...
Least comfortable relations are probably Super Ego and Quasi Identical.
Tell me something : how are ESE's useless ?
How are they useful?
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
They are friendly and agreeable with others.
They bring peace in this whole playground of conflict that we call "Earth".
They are able to lead others in a harmless way ; I mean, they aren't autocratic bossy retards like Stalin or ****** or such.
They are playful and funny.
They are empathetic and accomodating, though not weak-minded and self-effaced (unlike an EIE-2).
They are talkative, and are able to understand everything, even the very complex speech of LII's.
They are outgoing, yet not pushy (unlike an EIE-6 or a SEI-4)
They look dumb, but are pretty smart, like LII's.
They are docile subordinates, though not over-compliant retards, like EIE's or IEI's. (That's why I think Beta ST's are stupid)
Why is the EIE weak-minded but the ESE isn't?
I'm sure they are.They are [...] able to understand everything[...]
How is an SEI pushy, but an ESE not? They essentially have the most similar psychological make-ups besides duals.They are outgoing, yet not pushy (unlike an EIE-6 or a SEI-4)
God help those subordinate to you with this kind of attitude.They are docile subordinates, though not over-compliant retards, like EIE's or IEI's. (That's why I think Beta ST's are stupid)
Because ESE's value-, not
I said "SEI-4", not SEI-9 or SEI-2
Well, obviously, we don't have the same concept of domination and subordination.
Let's make some caricature : Beta ST's expect total submission from Beta NF's, whereas Alpha NT's expect light, cheerful docility from Alpha SF's.
None of the ENFjs I've known were Nazis. One of them is very sweet and able to think for herself too, even though she is female.
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****** was EIE.
Nazism itself is not EIE, but LSI.
No....Ahaha, I love how IEI is winning in the uselessness competition.
Pishh, all human life is useless anyway.
Some people are being smart asses
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
--Theodore Roosevelt
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
-- Mark Twain
"Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in."
-- Confucius
Alright!!!!!!!!!
Oh sweet! IEI just scored another vote! Winning by a mile!
Sorry for making you wait. I didn't see this until just now.
I don't know why. I just tend to feel pressure to be a certain way that I don't feel I can quite be.
I was being a little factitious when I wrote that, so don't take it too seriously.
I haven't really figured out exactly what they need. If I did, I might be more confident in dealing with them. Although, dealing with them over time I've developed certain abilities, so they seem to at least hear me now and like me a little better. I've learned to be louder when I need to be and how to laugh and smile and express more. Communication has gotten better over time.
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
That could be.
Probably not.
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
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I don't get the sense of this thread, but I'm voting on ENFp.
Beta extrovert from NF club.
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