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Last edited by Dee; 02-26-2009 at 02:01 AM.
hey dee: your functional descriptions are still a piece of shit.
aNT 5
gNT -9
aSF 7
gSF -3
bST -3
dST -1
bNF 3
dNF 1
It works!
I liked how you incorporated not sures/I think sos into all 3 choices Dee. Made it easier on my conscience
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
aNT. I think it would work for some types better than others.
delta nf (?) ... 4w5 (?)
Hmmm... I got a balance between aNT and gNT. It's a bit vague, but good for giving general direction...
I answered it the way I thought I would have answered it before knowing about Socionics, so I put my dual-seeking function as an insecurity. Does the test account for people doing that?
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
aNT 8
gNT 2
aSF -2
gSF -6
bST 0
dST -6
bNF 6
dNF 0
Dee, I'm curious, if you were to evalute the strengths and weaknesses of this test in a constructively critical way, what would you say about it? What are its strong points and what are its weak points, and why?
Well, I didn't save my data... but basically, what I would expect to throw off the result is:
-I put my dual-seeking function as an insecurity (before I had a dual to talk to, it was horrible)
-I put Fi as something I enjoy - a value learned from my parents, probably
-I put a low score for valuing my hidden agenda
-I put that I enjoy my PoLR, because I'm sure I would enjoy it if I somehow managed to use it well
Basically, it's easy to value your super-ego functions, because you're so painfully aware of the weakness - and it's easy to be insecure in your super-id functions, if your needs aren't being met. So maybe the wording could be improved, perhaps to reflect that it refers to what you enjoy people doing to you, not what you would enjoy doing to others.
The reason a knowledge of Socionics might cause a problem is that I would be prone to take my known type, dissect it and answer the questions about it instead of about me.
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
And I have another question. What about your tests are you improving over time? Like when you make a new test, what are you focusing on changing between it and the last test?
Nice test! Got exactly what I'd expect:
aNT: 8
gNT: 2
aSF: -5
gSF: -10
bST: 0
dST: -2
bNF: -1
dNT: 3
LII
gNT 11
aSF -11
aNT, dST, dNF 1
The others, -1
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
I don't think they're crap, I just agree with niffweed in the sense that they're the same quality as those in your last test. He thinks they're crap; I think they need improvement. niffweed offers pointless criticism, designed to deter the individual from furthering their studies (Ne devaluing; unwillingness to consider other possibilities). I offer constructive criticism. Basically, either you need to develop your functional descriptions a bit, or you need to include more questions which address the entire breadth of any given function. For example, have maybe seven or eight short questions relating to each function, or perhaps two or three length ones.
Okay, I'll do your test for your research purposes.
Please take my advice about using a different program/software/format as opposed to MS Excel.
Worked, nice.
aNT 5
gNT 1
aSF -2
gSF -4
bST 7
dST -1
bNF 0
dNF -6
LSI
aNT 6
bST 3
gNT 2
bNF 0
dNF 0
aSF -3
dST -3
gSF -7
dee, I actually think your tests are progressing in accuracy. You've restored my belief that there can be a socionics test.
I think the test was quite good; I think it may even work reasonably well with people who never heard of socionics.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
aNT 1
gNT 1
aSF -1
gSF 1
bST 0
dST 2
bNF 0
dNF -2
aNT 8
gNT 0
aSF -1
gSF -7
bST -1
dST 1
bNF 0
dNF 0
All Hail The Flying Spaghetti Monster
ok, im going to take this test.
ok, this test is good. I have been stuck between gSF and aSF.
I like the vagueness of the answers. Keeps me from having to give absolutes.
BetaNF - 5
DeltaNF - 1
GammaNT - -4
DeltaST - -4
*looks around* You all really need a ROFL button. If it wasn't bad enough being jerked around between ISFP and INFP for MB... I'm not blasting you, dee. It's just hilarious that I often get different results depending on the test I take.
I dunno, though. The test is very easy, but your last one told me I was definitely not B_NF but was pretty high D_NF.
Last edited by Cuddly McFluffles; 02-22-2008 at 08:04 PM.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
Don't have any videos. Just pics. As far as the id thing goes...the bounciness comes more naturally, but that deep, inner world...the sensitivity and symbolism - that's where I feel right. It's different forms of comfortable.
BTW, the avatar location is said with a mischevious, deranged-looking glint in my eye. ^.^
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
aNT -1
gNT 9
aSF -6
gSF -4
bST -5
dST 1
bNF -2
dNF 6
ok so what does it mean? I don't really know that much about socionics but score E/INTP on MBTI tests. Intuitive and perceptive are my higest scores after years of testing.
Polly
ENTP
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
*pats* To me, perfection is unattainable. I see such as a realistic view, not pessimistic. Still...it's not something to let get you down. Just try your best.
I'd say if you can get the others, don't worry so much about us rare birds. We're just strange...and this one is happy in the midst of her strangeness. ^.^
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
ok well the one that struck me as contradictory for me (and I could see why it wouldn't for others) isBeing good at mathmatics actually requires a good memory. It is a 'detail" and I tend to pay attention to concepts instead of details. It's how I can function so logically despite having a poor memory.laws, reason, mathematics, analysis, logical connections, order
Another isThe emotions part made what felt like a comfortable action feel more uncomfortable. I dislike dealing with emotion but enjoy trying to connect things to make predictions and I do imagine actions as well, its like a run through of the possibilities. I rarely involve emotion in these actions. I do like analyzing other people's emotions though. I am comfortable with doing that as opposed to experiencing them or being subjected to them.predictions, imagining actions, facts or emotions
Another thing is I do like to relax. I just notice my idea of relaxation doesn't include anything else in that category. To me to relax is total escape from my senses.
Polly
ENTP
And being bad at it does not require a bad memory. It's not my best subject, and not because I can't remember the formulas; my mental math is atrocious. I'm much better at the deductive reasoning branch. And yet, I can get an A on an English or History test.
I think that's what dee meant. She'd have to confirm it, though.
Still, I get what you're saying, and I agree, especially in the math one. I'm good at logic, analysis, and reasoning. I'm just bad with numbers.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
Me too, I even did a Masters Thesis for an International Relations degree but I didn't actually do the degree, I just wrote the thesis for someone else who left themselves only a week until their deadline to do it and begged for help.And being bad at it does not require a bad memory. It's not my best subject, and not because I can't remember the formulas; my mental math is atrocious. I'm much better at the deductive reasoning branch. And yet, I can get an A on an English or History test.
Just don't ask me to do math without a calculator. I will spend time to develop spreadsheets to do math for me, but I avoid doing the math myself.
Polly
ENTP
Delta - 7
Beta - 2
Alpha - 2
Gamma - 0
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.