Movie directors

[Expat]

I have already typed them elsewhere, but I've made some observations about movie directors and their types - by that I mean those that are famous enough to have a certain recognizable style.

In particular, I think ISFp and INFp are quite common.

In my opinion:

ISFp directors:

Orson Welles
George Lucas
Alfred Hitchcock
Federico Fellini
Sofia Coppola


INFp directors:

Oliver Stone
Ingmar Bergman
Francis Ford Coppola
Michael Cimino
Pier Paolo Pasolini
*added: Bernardo Bertolucci*

INTp directors

Stanley Kubrick
Brian de Palma (perhaps)
Martin Scorcese
John Carpenter (or perhaps ESFp - I actually attended a lecture by him once, and I think Gamma was clear, but strangely I'm not sure between INTp and ESFp

ENTj directors

George Romero
Richard Donner (or ESTj - one of the two).
Quentin Tarantino

ENTp directors

I can only think of Steven Spielberg

I think a common feature is strong and/or valued ; the exception are the ISFp directors, but I think it makes sense if one looks at their approach to filmmaking.

[Exodus]

Oliver Stone? Interesting.

[Expat]

Oliver Stone? Interesting.

He's one of whose type I'm pretty convinced of -- from interviews, from his movies, from comments by those who've dealt with him.

[Ms. Kensington]

yeah i thought that too, Expat. I sort of thought an ENFj is the quintessential director type.. but you don't have any here.

I also think that ISxp have a different style of filmmaking. and, I thought of sophia as INFp but maybe not.

[Ezra]

I get a different feel of De Palma's films to those of Kubrick and Scorcese. He seems more interested in generating theatrical atmosphere than Kubrick, and his style differs greatly to Scorcese, whose sets always have lots going on in the background and in the foreground (most prominent in Gangs of New York and The Aviator; the production values are normally better IMO (that's not to say that De Palma's are shit).

I'd also include Bryan Singer (The Usual Suspects, Apt Pupil) in the list of ILIs.

[aestrivex]

i don't know all that many film directors, but one who i saw a lot of in my spanish literature class (which was taught by an SEI ftr) is pedro almodóvar, who is another SEI.

[Expat]

I get a different feel of De Palma's films to those of Kubrick and Scorcese. He seems more interested in generating theatrical atmosphere than Kubrick, and his style differs greatly to Scorcese, whose sets always have lots going on in the background and in the foreground (most prominent in Gangs of New York and The Aviator; the production values are normally better IMO (that's not to say that De Palma's are shit).

Well yes, but that may be simply due to Scorcese getting bigger budgets than De Palma.

As for Bryan Singer, I think he must be a Gamma or Delta, not sure about ILI.

[aestrivex]

also woody allen as ILI.

[Dioklecian]

I have already typed them elsewhere, but I've made some observations about movie directors and their types - by that I mean those that are famous enough to have a certain recognizable style.

In particular, I think ISFp and INFp are quite common.

In my opinion:

ISFp directors:

Orson Welles
George Lucas
Alfred Hitchcock
Federico Fellini
Sofia Coppola


INFp directors:

Oliver Stone
Ingmar Bergman
Francis Ford Coppola
Michael Cimino
Pier Paolo Pasolini
*added: Bernardo Bertolucci*

INTp directors

Stanley Kubrick
Brian de Palma (perhaps)
Martin Scorcese
John Carpenter (or perhaps ESFp - I actually attended a lecture by him once, and I think Gamma was clear, but strangely I'm not sure between INTp and ESFp

ENTj directors

George Romero
Richard Donner (or ESTj - one of the two).
Quentin Tarantino

ENTp directors

I can only think of Steven Spielberg

I think a common feature is strong and/or valued ; the exception are the ISFp directors, but I think it makes sense if one looks at their approach to filmmaking.

Welles ISFP? I would very respectfully disagree. I just got Citizen Kane and watched it several times. It confirmed what I suspected throughtout the years as I listened to his radio dramas for hours every week: Mr Welles is the quintessentail American ENTJ. Almost certainly his real mother was ISFP and quite possibly his real father was ESFP.

From the movie the actors were as follows: One Mrs. Kane was ESTP and one ISFJ (the "singer"). His best friend ENFP. His secretary/friend/chairman of the board was ESTP. Mother wa ENFP I think. (all these from the movie of course,

[Jonathan]

Welles ISFP? I would very respectfully disagree. I just got Citizen Kane and watched it several times. It confirmed what I suspected throughtout the years as I listened to his radio dramas for hours every week: Mr Welles is the quintessentail American ENTJ. Almost certainly his real mother was ISFP and quite possibly his real father was ESFP.

From the movie the actors were as follows: One Mrs. Kane was ESTP and one ISFJ (the "singer"). His best friend ENFP. His secretary/friend/chairman of the board was ESTP. Mother wa ENFP I think. (all these from the movie of course,

It makes sense that the Kane character may have been ENTj. But in his interviews, Welles plays a little more the role of the "jolly ole fellow" who likes to tell stories, and perhaps that fits better with ISFp. I haven't studied his type in depth, but I would say that he was better than most actors at playing characters who are very different from himself.

[meatburger]

I would have to say that those clips of Hitchock do scream SEI to me. I only watched the first few seconds but was easily enough to reminds me a great deal of my friend. Who's also into claymation and films.

[suedehead]

A few guesses..alot of these are probably pretty off.

Quentin Tarantino - ENTj
Rainer Werner Fassbinder - ENFj....he seems to enjoy portraying 'tortured' characters.
Jean-Luc Godard - INFp
Agnes Varda - I'm guessing Gamma or Beta Introvert, Ethical. I've only seen Le Bonheur, La Pointe Courte, and bits of Vagabond.
Francois Truffaut - ENFp or beta NF..I get mixed vibes from his films.
Luis Bunuel - ENTp
Eric Rohmer - Maybe an introverted Gamma or Delta type
Robert Bresson - ISFj (?)
Stanley Kubrick - INTp
John Cassavetes - ENTp or ENTj
Orson Welles - ENTj
Martin Scorsese - Beta NF
David Fincher - ISTj (?)
Akira Kurosawa - INFj (?)
Sergio Leone - INTp (?)
Andrei Tarkovsky - Beta NF
Ingmar Bergman - INFp
Wes Anderson - ISFp
Sofia Coppola - ISFp (?)
Victor Erice - INFj (?)
Theo Angelopoulos - Maybe INFp? While I've only seen Ulysses' Gaze so far, his style reminds me alot of Andrei Tarkovsky's.
Yasujiro Ozu - INFj (?)

[Amber]

A few guesses..

Quentin Tarantino - ENTj
Rainer Werner Fassbinder - ESFp, ENTj or ENFj....he seems to enjoy portraying 'tortured' characters.
Jean-Luc Godard - INFp
Agnes Varda - I'm guessing Gamma or Beta Introvert, Ethical. I've only seen Le Bonheur, La Pointe Courte, and bits of Vagabond.
Francois Truffaut - ENFp or beta NF
Luis Bunuel - ENTp
Eric Rohmer - Maybe an introverted Gamma or Delta type
Robert Bresson - ISFj (?)
Stanley Kubrick - INTp
John Cassavetes - ENTp or ENTj
Orson Welles - ENTj
Martin Scorsese - Beta NF
David Fincher - ISTj (?)
Akira Kurosawa - INFj (?)
Sergio Leone - INTp (?)
Andrei Tarkovsky - Beta NF
Ingmar Bergman - INFp
Wes Anderson - ISFp
Sofia Coppola - ISFp (?)

Until I come up with others ..... here´s my take on some of yours here :

Jean-Luc Godard - Gamma (maybe SF)
Luis Bunuel - Ne something
Eric Rohmer - Gamma or Delta
Stanley Kubrick - Ni something
Orson Welles - ENFj
Akira Kurosawa - INFj
Andrei Tarkovsky - Beta NF

[suedehead]

Until I come up with others ..... here´s my take on some of yours here :

Jean-Luc Godard - Gamma (maybe SF)

Hmm..Godard's obsession with politics, and social strife makes me thing he's more of an aristocratic type. He seems pretty "Us vs. Them".

@3:40 to 4:45

[Amber]

Hmm..Godard's obsession with politics and social strife makes me thing he's an aristocratic type.

Alphaville is like a huge argument against technocracy. It touches upon topics that I´d consider "more Gamma". Emotions and subjective perceptions are outlawed and everything "human" is replaced with an artificial vocabulary that mechanicizes people. The motto of the place : "People should not ask why, but only say because". People considered to be acting illogically are executed and excluded. Attachment 3115 I actually haven´t watched other movies by him yet, but even by his pics I´d say he looks kind of Fi.

[Amber]

Hmm..Godard's obsession with politics, and social strife makes me thing he's more of an aristocratic type. He seems pretty "Us vs. Them".

@3:40 to 4:45

I see your point. But when it comes to polarized thinking (us-them), it may be ambiguous. This is from the Sacred Wiki : Division of people into "mine" and "not mine" is frequently attributed to aristocracy. In actuality, this division holds true for any types that values white ethics (Fi), including the democratic types (SEE, and in particular ESI). If we expand this concept, then "my" is any person with whom close relations have been formed, there is a familiar connection or sincere attachment. For the IEE an EII sincere attachment and belonging to a group become combined: "mine" and "not mine" for them are members of "their group" or "foreign group". --- Also .... since the differences between the socionics Aristocratic/Democratic trait and properties of the enneagram social instinct have never been clearly explained, it is inadvisable to rely on this dichotomy in typing.

[Whoobie77]

A few guesses..alot of these are probably pretty off.

Quentin Tarantino - ENTj
Luis Bunuel - ENTp
Eric Rohmer - Maybe an introverted Gamma or Delta type
Stanley Kubrick - INTp
Martin Scorsese - Beta NF
David Fincher - ISTj (?)
Akira Kurosawa - INFj (?
Andrei Tarkovsky - Beta NF
Yasujiro Ozu - INFj (?)

I'd actually say these are all in the ballpark. Good job. Bresson could be Delta and Fincher could be another Beta.

[Whoobie77]

Here goes something:

Alpha
Federico Fellini- ENTp
Richard Linklater- ISFp?


Beta
David Lynch- INFp
Darren Aronofsky- INFp
Calvin Reeder-INFp
Martin Scorcese- Beta NF, I'd be inclined to lean towards ENFj
Alfred Hitchcock- ESTp
Dziga Vertov- ISTj


Gamma
Paul Schrader-INTp

Delta
Oliver Stone-ENFp
Akira Kurosawa- INFj (I saw Rashomon again after being away from it for awhile; it's so saccharine in parts )
Miranda July- INFj
Abbas Kiarostami-INFj
Jacques Godbout
Ozu





If anybody has opinions on the types of Cronenberg, Wong Kar-Wai, or Park Chan Wook, I'm especially curious about hearing them.

[suedehead]

Nicholas Winding Refn - INTp
Lars Von Trier - INTp

[Contra]

Nicholas Winding Refn - INTp
Lars Von Trier - INTp

I feel like Refn is XEI considering he focuses on aesthetic so much. He gets inspired from songs. He tried making Drive sort of the visual derivative of a Kraftwerk song. I lean IEI for him because he focuses on powerful characters so much. Refn mentioned how the main character in Drive is a 'Hero' in a certain sense. It reminds me of my IEI friend who sort of had this focus on the heroic (maybe that's an Ti/Fe valuing thing).. Just my opinion though. he could very well still be an ILI. He does seem to focus on Ni/Se (or at least Se).

[suedehead]

Chris Marker - IEI?

[silke]

Paul Thomas Anderson - LSI so/sx
Martin Scorsese - SLI-Si sp/so
Quentin Tarantino - ILE sx/so
Werner Herzog - LII-Ti sp/so 9w8
Andrei Tarkovsky - LSI
Woody Allen - LII sp/so
Jean-Luc Godard - ESI-Se so/sp
David Lynch - IEI so/sp 9w1
Darren Aronofsky - IEI-Ni
David Mamet - SLE-Se so/sp
Mel Gibson - LSE-Te e6
Steven Spielberg - ILE

Ingmar Bergman - Si/Ne introvert (not IEI)
Lars von Trier - Alpha irrational (SEI)?
Akira Kurosawa - delta?
Alfred Hitchcock - ?
Stanley Kubrick - ? (so/sp)
Roman Polanski - ?

[Whoobie77]

Martin Scorsese - SLI-Si sp/so
Werner Herzog - LII-Ti sp/so 9w8
Quentin Tarantino - ILE sx/so
Lars von Trier - Alpha irrational (SEI)?

lolwut

Alfred Hitchcock - ?
Stanley Kubrick - ? (so/sp)

Hitchcock is SLE I think, Kubrick is ILI.

[Radio]

ALFONSO CUARON - Se-LSI

[suedehead]

Agnes Varda - IEI-Ni
Chris Marker - LSI-Ti
Jean-Luc Godard - ESI-Se
Abbas Kiarostami - EII

[Contra]

Christopher Nolan- Gamma NT (possibly INTp)- Don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet.

I think Paul Thomas Anderson is either Beta or Gamma. (ESI or LSI)

[The Martrix]

Stephen Spielberg is ENTp-Ti.
Maybe ISTj for Chrisopher Nolan?

[Radio]

Maybe ISTj for Chrisopher Nolan?

ENFj i think. still beta.

[The Martrix]

ENFj i think. still beta.

Oh, yeah. Definitely beta.

[Radio]

i can't remember if i've posted in this thread before

	Lars Von Trier	Ti-INTj	Alpha
	Woody Allen	Ne-INTj	Alpha
	Zack Snyder	Ne-INTj	Alpha
	Charlie Kaufman	Ti-ENTp	Alpha
	Guillermo Del Toro	Ne-ENTp	Alpha
	Spike Jonze	ISFp (?)	Alpha
	Wes Anderson	ISFp (?)	Alpha
	Seth MacFarlane	Fe-ESFj	Alpha
	Steven Spielberg	Extrovert	Alpha
	Judd Apatow	?	Alpha
	Darren Aronofsky	Ni-INFp	Beta
	Sam Mendes	Ni-INFp	Beta
	David Lynch	Fe-INFp	Beta
	Tim Burton	Fe-INFp	Beta
	Martin Scorsese	Ni-ENFj	Beta
	Christopher Nolan	Ni-ENFj	Beta
	David Fincher	Se-ESTp	Beta
	Alfonso Cuaron	Se-ISTj	Beta
	John Hughes	?	Beta

ummm. i can't think of any delta/gamma film-makers. weird.

[Anglas]

ummm. i can't think of any delta/gamma film-makers. weird.

Guy Ritchie

[suedehead]

..Eric Rohmer, Kurosawa, Theo Angelopoulos, Abbas Kiarostami, Yasujiro Ozu. All EII's strangely enough. Gamma should have a couple ESI's and NT's too, off the top of my head.

[Moonbeaux Rainfox]

Wong Kar Wai - INFp

[HERO]

Roy Andersson (Swedish filmmaker/director): IEE? (ENFp)

Apichatpong Weerasethakul (Thai filmmaker/director): IEE? (ENFp)

Steven Soderbergh (American director): LIE (ENTj) or LSE?


Lars von Trier: Beta NF (IEI or EIE)

David Lynch: Beta NF (IEI or EIE?)

[PepCMaximus]

Martin Scorsese - IEI-Ni
Steven Spielberg - EII-Ne
Quentin Tarantino - IEE-Fi
Alfred Hitchcock - ILI-Ni
Stanley Kubrick - ILI-Ni
Francis Ford Coppola - ILE-Ne
Ridley Scott - LIE-Ni
Woody Allen - LII-Ne
James Cameron - LIE-Ni
Clint Eastwood - SLI-Si
David Lynch - LII-Ne
Christopher Nolan - ILI-Ni
Paul Thomas Anderson - ILE-Ti
Akira Kurosawa - ILI-Te
Peter Jackson - ILE-Ti
Tim Burton - ILE-Ne
Wes Anderson - SEI-Si
Charlie Chaplin - EII-Ne
George Lucas - LII-Ne
Sofia Coppola - SEI-Si
Terry Gilliam - ILE-Ne
Richard Linklater - IEE-Ne
Sergio Leone - ILI-Ni
Werner Herzog - IEI-Ni

[wacey]

Martin Scorsese - IEI-Ni
Steven Spielberg - EII-Ne
Quentin Tarantino - IEE-Fi
Alfred Hitchcock - ILI-Ni
Stanley Kubrick - ILI-Ni
Francis Ford Coppola - ILE-Ne
Ridley Scott - LIE-Ni
Woody Allen - LII-Ne
James Cameron - LIE-Ni
Clint Eastwood - SLI-Si
David Lynch - LII-Ne
Christopher Nolan - ILI-Ni
Paul Thomas Anderson - ILE-Ti
Akira Kurosawa - ILI-Te
Peter Jackson - ILE-Ti
Tim Burton - ILE-Ne
Wes Anderson - SEI-Si
Charlie Chaplin - EII-Ne
George Lucas - LII-Ne
Sofia Coppola - SEI-Si
Terry Gilliam - ILE-Ne
Richard Linklater - IEE-Ne
Sergio Leone - ILI-Ni
Werner Herzog - IEI-Ni

who are​ you? This is a decent list.

[Tallmo]

Quentin Tarantino - IEE-Fi

To me he seems very LIE

[Adam Strange]

Quentin Tarantino - IEE-Fi

To me he seems very LIE

I agree with LIE. No EIE would be caught dead dressed like this in public: https://www.google.com/search?q=quen...w=1111&bih=980

[Delilah]

I'm having some doubts about Ingmar Bergman as Fe creative. His characters seem to suffer a feelings 'death' so to speak, frequently characters cast as actors who can no longer find the real selves who either retire or have a breakdown and retreat to a world far from acting to be in touch with the true self: the true feeling , etc. One retires after acting and simply stops communicating to others in words; another retires by marrying a clergyman, hoping to reach a certain level of the self and to feel her 'real' feelings, the truth. It seems maybe like a Fi types view on these matters (?) Open for debate but that's the impression i gather so far.

[Exodus]

I'm having some doubts about Ingmar Bergman as Fe creative. His characters seem to suffer a feelings 'death' so to speak, frequently characters cast as actors who can no longer find the real selves who either retire or have a breakdown and retreat to a world far from acting to be in touch with the true self: the true feeling , etc. One retires after acting and simply stops communicating to others in words; another retires by marrying a clergyman, hoping to reach a certain level of the self and to feel her 'real' feelings, the truth. It seems maybe like a Fi types view on these matters (?) Open for debate but that's the impression i gather so far.

That seems perfectly consistent with IEI, Fi demonstrative. I haven't researched him but that's my impression based on his movies.

Lynch: IEI
Tarantino: LIE (this is still a tentative typing, EIE and SEE are plausible)
Scorsese: probably Gamma extrovert
Linklater: ILE
Von Trier: IEI
Fincher: IEI?
Lucas: SEI
Tarkovsky: probably IEI
Kurosawa: probably LSI
Herzog: IEI?
Wes Anderson: maaybe SEI
Shane Carruth: LII

Soderbergh might be SLI, have to do more research.