, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
One possible way of looking at this is, I think, to see it as an example of a perspective versus a perspective. Gordon Brown is of course the defender of , whereas Cameron delivers (among other things) criticism. My guess is that Brown is an LSI, because his behaviour and V.I look suggests that type. I'm not sure of David Cameron's type, but I don't think he is from Beta or Alpha.
Brown strikes me as an ILI
Cameron is a blatent Fe ego; almost certainly EIE. The style and tone of his speech indicates Se HA IMO, and he's a master at getting the crowd on his side; a typical rhetorician, orator and performer. And his ridiculous unintended self-mockery of him riding on a bike to work with all his papers in the car riding up beside him is completely laughable.
Blair defo an ENFj. Cameron not really as much of idealist as what Blair was. When you look at his Bullington club background and his reasons for entering politics there's less Fe with idealism involved. I think he tries to copy Blairs style tho so I'm not sure the Cameron we see now is him or more his image construct (and he has drawn criticism from both sides for excessive spin)
Unless I have got a totally wrong view of Gordon Brown from seeing him in that video, SG's typing of him as INTp strikes me as obviously incorrect. Can someone explain how you can see Brown as an ILI?
This is also interesting for Brown:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NEealH_Ry6Q
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
Cameron always has this habit it seems of leaning on the desk and turning round and saying things along the lines of 'Am I not right?' 'Is this not a reasonable proposal?' etc., in order to get a jeer of laughter from his own party etc., whom he knows full well is going to agree with him.
This is probably just a thing that all politicians do - GB does it to a certain extent, though he seems more likely to say 'they are wrong, incompetent', 'I'm wise, he's not' etc.
Nonsense! David Cameron is as Delta as they get. LSE!!! Interestingly Tony is also thought to be an LSE.
Notice, the difference between the clean-cut Deltas and the rather rough around the edges look of Gamma Gordon
But yes, the main power of argumentation in the House of Commons is driven by Extraverted Logic, not Extraverted Ethics. We're just not a very Beta-friendly bunch
pretty sure Cameron is ethical...
@lecter suggested SEE in a thread a few years ago and someone else (who I won't mention unless they choose to do so themselves!) also believed this...I currently prefer it as a typing over EIE for example. If so, it is not something that is immediately obvious to me in large part due to a blindspot in regards of the range of SEEs...I think his portrayal of a Flashman persona may be illustrative.