Fi polr is pretty easy. People who don't have a clue how others feel about them can be accidentally annoying.
Fi polr is pretty easy. People who don't have a clue how others feel about them can be accidentally annoying.
This is really true.Originally Posted by carrina
As a LIE, strangely enough, I find Fi-PoLR easiest to see, maybe because it is my DS function. But when I meet an ILE or an SLE, it is so easy for me to see that they are kind of klutzes at Fi.
That they are. Actually I think ethical polr in general is the most easy since it creates obvious interpersonal tension.
I actually empathise with this polr, I imagine it's painful to realise you're fucking your relationships up and not understand why people are reacting negatively to you, especially since fe is so important. I think fi polr types can go waay out of their way to preserve relationships with people that want in their lives.
They probably just see it as "people hate for no reason sometimes, and I just have to deal with that fact of life any way I can".
Or absolutely charming.
Depends on how to look at it.
The part about not understanding that you're being a jerk isn't cute, even their duals know it.
Otherwise, sure, there are cool things about these people just like every type.
This is assuming their personality is "jerk like" to begin with. In my opinion this is a popularist view of ILE/SLE. In reality the opposite might be more true: they are actually "over nice", "to friendly", "to overt", whilst invading boundaries. I think it would be clever to seek out intentions before effect (the Ni). Their duals know how to dance between the two. Fi-polr can also come from good homes and are the majority friendly (my point being to friendly), especially when brought up with hefty doses of Fe. Easily done with a nudge or two here and there as opposed to condemnation (Fi).
Last edited by wacey; 12-16-2016 at 02:45 AM.
Yeah, this is definitely a stereotype. For one quite egregious example, Jill Stein comes across quite SLE to me based on other typed examples I have. There is actually a lot of variation within a group of people who perceive the same elements of reality the most prominently, how shocking.
With ILE this might be true in some cases, with SLE I would disagree. They often act like jerks and expect you to suck it up rather having themselves cater to people's feelings. An SLE might even intentionally hurt someone's feelings if they think it will make others think of them as "the boss", or if they think it will gain them social favor by doing so.
Last edited by Muddy; 12-16-2016 at 11:25 AM.
True but that's more of a low functioning person's behavior.
I've found this in all beta types for the record.
Last edited by carrina; 12-16-2016 at 08:36 PM.
You're SEE, you're supposed to like most beta types, not think that they're permanently low-functioning...
Yeah, they can be like that, I agree.
Even though if you directly tell them to stop because they're making a fool out of themselves, they will normally do.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Sure.
But they also come off as jerks sometimes without intending it. I'm not saying they are jerks, I'm saying it's hard for them not to come off that way at times.
I think that this applies to healthy versions too
Only annoying if you care about your own feelings about them
nice try there, again, but only psychopaths are without feelings.Only annoying if you care about your own feelings about them
You know it when someone treats you like your feelings aren't important and it doesn't feel good no matter what type you are. Unless you're a masochist that is.
That's absolutely true, but I've rarely felt like Fi Vulnerable types were acting in a way that hurt my feelings -- since for me feelings are much more aboutthan
. I would be more likely to view an
As per socionics modelThat's absolutely true, but I've rarely felt like Fi Vulnerable types were acting in a way that hurt my feelings -- since for me feelings are much more about
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