The appeal is abit hard to understand, I get the expectations thing( I believe my ex was an ISTJ, and one of the problems was her constant expectations of things)
but other then that, what? LOL.
The appeal is abit hard to understand, I get the expectations thing( I believe my ex was an ISTJ, and one of the problems was her constant expectations of things)
but other then that, what? LOL.
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not
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In my experience, the appeal is this: they let you be youself--you don't have to act for them... They accept you as you are... They're not demanding at all--the opposite. They're usually very curious about things too, so there's always stuff to do or talk about.
That does seem to describe how my IEE friend is around her duals. She comes up with zany little comments all the time and they just don't blink, and roll with whatever she says. They also don't make a big deal out of it, like call attention to it being a joke, but rather 'accept' the reality of it and play it deadpan. Umm, maybe I'm explaining this badly. I'll try to give an example.
We were both at the graduation celebration of an SLI friend of ours, and he was being all grumpy about having to deal with the 'event' of it all and his parents incessent need to take photos. My IEE friend says something like you only get two graduations (combined degrees) in your life, and when you're 80, you should be able to look back on it well.
SLI: I don't plan to live to 80
IEE: Don't tell me you plan to die at 36, that's such a cliche
SLI: Nah, somewhere between 40 and 50
IEE: But then your children will not have you around right when they go into their teens - imagine the drugs and ...drinking they will fall into
SLI: Oh, I'll train them well early on so that won't happen
And they said all of that in a light, normal tone. Meanwhile I'm going next to them because I don't like talking about people dying? Like, I *knew* it was all a joke, but um, I have this basic belief that people are talking about things they mean all the time, so I was all
When I have those kind of exchanges with the IEE, we tend to build on what each other says, until it gets more and more dramatic and collapses under the ridiculousness of it all. But the IEE and SLI seemingly could go on indefinitely.
It happens frequently too. Another time we were at lunch with a(nother) SLI and SEI. The IEE made some comment about something someone told her about monkey brains, and the practices people engage in while eating it. I immediately chimed in about seeing monkey brains in the grocery store, and then the SLI jumped in with this elaborate explanation of a family practice of his that basically validated the seemingly outlandish original statement of the IEE. The words he was saying were clearly taking the piss, but he said it completely deadpan and very convincingly, and all three of us were presenting it as if we were having a serious discussion and all the mirth was very much kept below the surface, though easy to recognise in each other. The SEI was completely lost and had no idea what we were all on about.
I've never seen a SLI sort of cut my IEE friend off because they are uninterested in what she's saying. I mean, yeah, she is a very interesting lady. But more than that, they do always seem genuinely interested - in person. And SLIs react to her very differently to the way they react to me, and to others as far as I know. They seem...lit up and brought out of their brusque exterior with her, playful and willing to joke.
I think it's cute. Really really cute.
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I shit you not my ISTp friend has said exactly the same thing to me. Hes told me more than once that he can see himself dying early (he can feel it). All i can say is that i think hes nuts. Unless ISTp's have some innate death sense that ive never heard of?? What is with that, like weak Ni or something lol.
ENFp (Unsure of Subtype)
"And the day came when the risk it took to remain closed in a bud became more painful than the risk it took to blossom." - Anaïs Nin
Ha. I get the feeling i'll be around a lonnng time.
My dad is SLI and quite often when he sees me holding for example cup of chocolate and going to zap it, he stops me whith smile and nodding and does it by himself. I'm definately too much scatterbrained . It's just a simple example, but everyone else always warn me with sharp tone not to spill all that stuff.
I have the same feeling and this doesn't make me upset. It just exists.
But when I cross the street thinking of death, I sometimes feel really odd .
Last edited by Chocolate; 05-17-2008 at 10:10 AM.
I'm the same. I was a caretaker for seniors for some time and it really depressed me. The whole steady decline, reliance upon others and meaninglessness of life makes me not want to live to that age. But I don't think i'll ever get to that point. I would hate to be a burden to people. The day I have to start wearing diapers, someone has my permission to off me.
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wow? Ok so its not type related (not like i really thought it was with any conviction). Occording to me anyway, this feeling is illogical so i ignore it. I must admit i dont relish the idea of being old but i will do so gracefully im sure. I do have a strong sense that all humans are teetering on the brink of death, it just takes one small occurance and BAM your dead. Ive just accepted that i cant really control that tho and we will see what happens. I dont really have any sense of my own death though, i just hope its later rather than sooner!
@ Chocolate haha i like your avatar and name its just very cute.
ENFp (Unsure of Subtype)
"And the day came when the risk it took to remain closed in a bud became more painful than the risk it took to blossom." - Anaïs Nin
The same here. I would like to be a crazy granny like my ESFp grandma, if I had a possibility to choice my late years. She drives a car 100km/h, travels a lot, paints pictures and goes to parties with her friends. This prospect is quite optimistic barring age limit.
Thanks . I can say that this name is my substance . My family says I don't eat properly, but I love eating chocolate too much hahah.
IEE. subtype.
Holy shit! My husband MUST be ISTp! SAME thing! He tells me all the time that he's going to die young, and that he's always known. He's too afraid to check his blood pressure, because he seems to think it's always high, and he truly doesn't see himself living past 60.
(Again, sorry- I'm reviving these really old posts, but I just got married and I'm trying to make sense of it all! And apparently I only have 30 years left with this man!)
And if God cares so wonderfully for flowers that are here today and gone tomorrow, won't he more surely care for you?- Matthew 6:30
This is a great observation. It sounds very much like how me and SLI interact. They really seem to like that wackiness. I remember once, me, ESI, SLI were talking about how the moon was red that day, then I came up with a very strange/stupid reason for the moon being that color, the ESI was like WTF but SLI laughed (in a way saying he is not judging you) then continued talking about it.
Sometimes, I will try to explain something, but I don't find the right words, so I keep saying very vague words here and there, others usually stop listening to me but SLI always pick up something from what i was saying and we continue talking without me feeling uncomfortable. It's not with words only, from time to time, I unconsciously do some weird movements, then I turn and find SLI laughing so hard somewhere, like once, it was very cold so I started (unconsciously) jumping in my place and I thought no one was watching but SLI was there all along and he started laughing, then he told me that next time I should wear warmer clothes.
It's very great and refreshing to have someone around who doesn't judge you for being your stupid self haha.