Right: Something that you feel like you should do.
Wrong: Something that you feel like you should not do.
That's all there is to it. Ta.
Right: Something that you feel like you should do.
Wrong: Something that you feel like you should not do.
That's all there is to it. Ta.
So if I feel like I should periodically punch babies repeatedly in the forehead, that makes it right?
Originally Posted by Logos
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Maybe Discojoe's feelings about what he should or should not do are very clear to him... and so it then easily follows into right/wrong distinctions.
But if your feelings about what you should or shouldn't do aren't so clear, then such a system isn't as helpful.
Mind if I quote this and send it into the philosophy department as a possible replacement for their ethics class textbooks?
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Just because I'm a thinking type doesn't mean I'm not an idiot.
For me, the problem is more often that I feel like I should do too many things. Things that conflict with other things I feel like I should do. Things that I have an unnecessary sense of obligation to do. It's quite maddening at times.
If you really, truly, genuinely feel like that's what you should do, then that's what you should do. And then the people around you will commit or arrest you because that's what they feel they should do. There's no overall right and wrong law for everyone. Because we all ultimately make our own decisions, we must each have our own moral compass. What else could we have?
Then usually I would find myself not doing practically anything if I find almost every single choice to be practically equivalent? Perhaps I am short on morals?Yes it is. If you don't know which to do, then you should do neither.
Anyway,
What if there are no grounds in between such as doing neither?
ILI perhaps?
The actual hard part for a lot of people is getting past the physical side of it. The main reasons why you would be tempted to do something you <i>shouldn't</i> do are going to be because you want something in a physical way. Something that will appeal to your senses, or make you feel physically better even if only a little while. Zillions of examples of this...another one is when you feel mentally weak, most likely due to something the body needs, then comes the justification.
It's easy to know, harder to ignore your body and own mental weakness.
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[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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I told Peter that I tend to think of most things in terms of wise or unwise instead of right or wrong. (There are things that I see as right and wrong though of course, things related to violations of the rights of others for example.) He said that I try to look at most things in terms of practicality when most things are more so a matter of right and wrong. I told him that right and wrong aren't always clear. He said that if you genuinely don't know what you should do (in the context of right and wrong), then it's not an ethical decision. I said that if that's thecase, most things are not ethical decisions for me.
I think that's what it comes down to. For someone who has a clear concept of ethics, then that's what they should use to make their decisions. For people who have a stronger sense of the practical aspects of the situation (and a less clear concept of what their ethical compass is pointing them towards), then that's what they should use to make their decisions.
Consulting one's conscience doesn't always work for everyone, at least not if you consider feeling guilty to be related to one's conscience. I feel guilty when I haven't done anything wrong, and I often honestly have no idea what I should do because I know I'll feel guilty no matter I decide. That's one reason why having an ESI around helps me. He tells me that there's no reason I should feel obligated to do something (or that I really should do something). If he tells me I shouldn't feel like I should have to do something, sometimes I do it anyways. If he tells me I should do something though, I think I pretty much always do.
...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
INTp
i read that unless there is a struggle (some difficulty) the decision is not an ethical one. but i see that as different than saying that if you start weighing pros and cons in a practical sense then it's not ethical.
I believe discojoe should update this thread every week.
He'd just be saying the same thing every week. He's been saying that as long as I've known him: If someone thinks that they're doing something they shouldn't be doing, they're wrong, regardless of the consequences (after we get caught up on Lost I'll have a kick ass example). If they truly believe they're doing the right thing, they're not.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
******ry?
But seriously, no. I don't see where you're arriving at that conclusion. There's a pretty clear distinction between doing what you know will benefit you and doing what you feel is right.
Depends on the person.
...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
INTp
It probably would be more along the lines of subjectivism or emotivism. I can see how that would work with particularly well-set individuals, but certainly not as a basic principle for all. Then again, I've become skeptical that any such principles exist (i.e. follow/do this and you're doing the right/or approximately right thing). Not everyone has an internal ethical lodestone. Some people wouldn't even think such a thing desirable. Additionally, there are other considerations, but I'll try not to go nuts about it.
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend