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    This is just a theory, so don't get all hung up on it.

    In short, the reason I think they bear so much resemblance to MBTT descriptions is because they're derived from them. The only reason people like Pheadrus think MBTT types are the same as their socionics 'equivalent' are because they are written from an MBTT perspective. Put it this way:

    *A socionists comes along*

    "Ooh, this LSE has the same functional ordering as the ESTJ in MBTT. Hence, they must be the same thing! I will write a description of the LSE which bears likeness to the ESTJ."

    What the socionist should be thinking is this:

    "LSEs may have the same functional ordering as the ESTJ, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are the same kinds of people. Hence, we will write about the LSE from a socionics perspective; obviously their ego is Te and Si blocked together. So, let's talk about how said Te and Si influence the character."

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    I'm not sure if that is how it happened. Who knows. What I would like to see is non type related stuff removed from type descriptions through some kind of intense peer review. Currently they are so full of details which are not really related to the theoretical socionics type but more like observations of individuals or something which don't carry well to all individuals of the same type. So if you don't see those details in yourself you find it very hard to relate to the type description.

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    Possibly as the result of observing mistyped people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Possibly as the result of observing mistyped people?
    That's one possibility. More likely cause is making observations of individuals to be observations of type without actually mapping those observations to types via socionics theory. Like "That's an ISTj, he drinks Coke, thus all ISTjs drink Coke". Even if drinking Coke is not related to ISTjs at all.

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    socionics does not copy myers briggs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    socionics does not copy myers briggs...
    No, but that doesn't mean its practitioners don't....

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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    socionics does not copy myers briggs...
    I give you an example:

    "ENTjs are very enthusiastic when starting new projects sometimes becoming so passionate that they can forget about everything else. They normally start small, gradually working their way up to bigger things."

    Whee. I'm ENTj now.

    "When in conversation, ESTps always show self-restraint and tact. They generally interact in an open and friendly manner"

    Oh wow. Now I'm ESTp.

    "Whatever ISTps do, they try to extract a practical use from it."

    And...Im also ISTp

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