detail2 the main difference between ENFps and ENTps would be the direction of their enthusiasm
busy_Joy toward people or ideas?
detail2 among other things
busy_Joy like what?
busy_Joy people or projects?
detail2 but regarding people ENFps will be more personnal and familial, ENTps will be more social
busy_Joy like, ENTps are good at presenting themselves while ENFps are good at connecting?
detail2 regarding projects ENFps will aim for fun, ENTps for competence, even is not admittingly
detail2 yeah
busy_Joy thanks!
detail2 ENTps are kinda show offs
detail2 subtly
busy_Joy lol
busy_Joy I think ENTps like to pull the strings quietly
busy_Joy rearrange the dynamics of a situation
detail2 they might connect, if they want to appear as the best at connecting
detail2 yeah
busy_Joy do you think ENPfs are more likely to ask "who" and ENTps "why"?
detail2 sometimes the dynamics being the head of people, the situation being themselves, and rearanging meaning turning
detail2 both will ask both
busy_Joy yeah
busy_Joy and how
detail2 but in a different manner i guess
detail2 ENTps have an inner, serious why
detail2 ENFps have an outward why
busy_Joy ENFps are more likely to think poorly of those who are mean while ENTps will think poorly of those who are stupid?
detail2 ENTps are also most likely to use words as if they were objects, claiming things like "having a why"
detail2 kinda
detail2 partly because those who are stupid sometimes can't recognize them
busy_Joy I am way too into cause and effect relationships
busy_Joy I dunno, I think I do tend to care more about conveying competence than winning approval
busy_Joy though in my mind the two go hand in hand to a large extent
detail2 i think the approval is not wanted from actual people, but from some kind of imaginary audience
detail2 sometimes actual people are along with the imaginary audience
busy_Joy hmmm
busy_Joy I care much more about reaching success as I see it than I do about reaching success as the world sees it
busy_Joy do you think ENTps are less likely to respect tradition and "authority"?
detail2 hence the imaginary audience
busy_Joy lol
busy_Joy makes sense
detail2 the translation of this into the world might be letting people know about your competence
busy_Joy for me it's reaching my goals
detail2 yeah, i was in no way saying ENTps are puppets
detail2 and yes, ENTps are less likely to respect tradition
busy_Joy I would MUCH rather be known for being at the top of my field than known for being socially popular
detail2 i don't know a single ENTp who has respect for tradition and authority
busy_Joy lol
detail2 yeah that's the kind of showoffness of ENTps
busy_Joy well I don't see why everyone is so into the idea that they should do things the way other people do them
detail2 social popularity is not sufficiently interesting
detail2 ENFj might like it better
detail2 that their anchor
busy_Joy I would rather be seen as interesting than friendly
busy_Joy and I would much rather be clever than funny
detail2 why did you want to know the differences between ENPs?
busy_Joy lol for a thread
detail2 ok
detail2 i suggest you brainstorm with an ENFp
busy_Joy would you mind if I use this conversation?
detail2 no i don't mind
busy_Joy lol but I'm posting now
busy_Joy hehe
busy_Joy okay, thanks
detail2 well ENFps can manifest themselves through replies anyway
busy_Joy indeed