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    The thing is that redneck is also specific to a region (Appalachia) and Scots-Irish descent, so to say Zhirinovsky is a redneck just sounds weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom View Post
    The thing is that redneck is also specific to a region (Appalachia) and Scots-Irish descent, so to say Zhirinovsky is a redneck just sounds weird.
    I was taking on rednecks as stock characters, like femme fatales or ingenues. Except that I was talking on rednecks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom View Post
    The thing is that redneck is also specific to a region (Appalachia) and Scots-Irish descent, so to say Zhirinovsky is a redneck just sounds weird.
    I disagree, something Jeff Foxworthy did for the entire world, was let everyone know that their are rednecks EVERYWHERE you go.

    I watched a program the other night where he was talked about.

    He was in a comedy club in Wisconsin somewhere, and someone had mentioned to him that there were no rednecks in Wisconsin.
    He took the time to say
    "Well, I'm standing here in a Bar that's attached to a bowling alley that has valet parking. If that's not redneck, we may just have to figure it out." Then came his "you might be a redneck if..." stuff and he's now the richest comedian in the world... just because he found a way to relate everyone to "rednecks" in some way or another. He actually turned what has always been a slandering word into one that most people can relate someone they know to.


    In many ways though, I'd consider myself somewhat of a redneck... none of which are listed in that little offensive description above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    I disagree, something Jeff Foxworthy did for the entire world, was let everyone know that their are rednecks EVERYWHERE you go.

    I watched a program the other night where he was talked about.

    He was in a comedy club in Wisconsin somewhere, and someone had mentioned to him that there were no rednecks in Wisconsin.
    He took the time to say
    "Well, I'm standing here in a Bar that's attached to a bowling alley that has valet parking. If that's not redneck, we may just have to figure it out." Then came his "you might be a redneck if..." stuff and he's now the richest comedian in the world... just because he found a way to relate everyone to "rednecks" in some way or another. He actually turned what has always been a slandering word into one that most people can relate someone they know to.


    In many ways though, I'd consider myself somewhat of a redneck... none of which are listed in that little offensive description above.
    Oh, trust me, we have rednecks in Michigan. Still, many of them are of Scots-Irish descent, many of their grandparents lived in Tennessee or some such place. Anyway, that's where the stereotype of rednecks, hillbillies, whatever you want to call them started, and to be a redneck or hillbilly you have to act like that. And rednecks here in Michigan and in Wisconsin are probably more accurately called "hicks" or something.

    Vladimir Zhirinovsky doesn't fit that stereotype. It isn't a generic "people who are boorish" stereotype. It is something very specific - cheap beer, NASCAR, rifle rack in the back of the pick-up truck, country-western music, pro wrestling, trailer park, car up on blocks in the front yard, monster trucks, mullets, "Git R Dun", that kind of thing. And it isn't a particularly fair stereotype or a nice stereotype because part of it is an assumption of stupidity and racism and other kinds of ignorance, and not all people who like country-western music and have mullets are like that, but it is a very specific stereotype.
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    I should add that my husband drag races. I see hicks/rednecks/hillbillies on a pretty regular basis. Some of them are quite proud to call themselves that.

    My husband made me go to a tractor pull once because he was curious what it would be like. It was at the county fair. People were really getting into it, too. "MAN did you SEE THAT? A full pull!!! WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!" He made me go to a monster truck rally once too. He fits absolutely none of the redneck stereotypes - he isn't even American - but he likes anything with an engine so he does like to go to those kinds of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom View Post
    Vladimir Zhirinovsky doesn't fit that stereotype. It isn't a generic "people who are boorish" stereotype. It is something very specific - cheap beer, NASCAR, rifle rack in the back of the pick-up truck, country-western music, pro wrestling, trailer park, car up on blocks in the front yard, monster trucks, mullets, "Git R Dun", that kind of thing. And it isn't a particularly fair stereotype or a nice stereotype because part of it is an assumption of stupidity and racism and other kinds of ignorance, and not all people who like country-western music and have mullets are like that, but it is a very specific stereotype.
    That's what I meant when I wrote "redneck" : "boorish people". If you have a low serotonin level, i.e. persistent bad mood, you're likely to have this kind of behaviour, and to relate to this stereotype, like 33% of people do. Such people can't really help being moody. I can't seriously hate them. I like everybody, and I'm as pacific as a lamb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    That's what I meant when I wrote "redneck". If you have a low serotonin level, i.e. persistent bad mood, you're likely to have this kind of behaviour, and to relate to this stereotype, like 33% of people do.
    If you have a persistent bad mood, you will want to listen to country-western music and wear a mullet?

    You obviously don't know any rednecks. They can be a pretty happy bunch. Their happiness level is probably roughly the same as anyone else's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom View Post
    If you have a persistent bad mood, you will want to listen to country-western music and wear a mullet?

    You obviously don't know any rednecks. They can be a pretty happy bunch. Their happiness level is probably roughly the same as anyone else's.
    Nobody is really or purely a "redneck" or a "boorish dude/girl" ; that's a stereotype.

    Saying that moody types (low serotonin) are all boorish is like saying that tough-minded types (moderate serotonin) are all machines. I'm not a machine.

    But in fact, most 468's I encountered in class liked to play boorish dudes/girls. Mainly, there was an ILI-4 dude that liked to create or get involved to random conflicts. Yes. For some time interval, the "bully" of that school was actually E4. No joke. I mean, if you have a bad mood, you're likely to overcompensate a low drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Nobody is really or purely a "redneck" or a "boorish dude/girl" ; that's a stereotype.

    I disagree, there are people that are as redneck as you could imagine...lol

    Most of my younger years were in the hills of Tennessee, it is a fact that there are many people exactly like what you posted. Then again, it's also a fact that many of the people that would be considered "redneck" are also great people... many of whom like moster trucks, tractor pulls, rodeos, and drinkin beer and driving around town...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom View Post
    Vladimir Zhirinovsky doesn't fit that stereotype. It isn't a generic "people who are boorish" stereotype. It is something very specific - cheap beer, NASCAR, rifle rack in the back of the pick-up truck, country-western music, pro wrestling, trailer park, car up on blocks in the front yard, monster trucks, mullets, "Git R Dun", that kind of thing. And it isn't a particularly fair stereotype or a nice stereotype because part of it is an assumption of stupidity and racism and other kinds of ignorance, and not all people who like country-western music and have mullets are like that, but it is a very specific stereotype.
    THANK YOU. This is what I know to be a redneck, machintruc. So perhaps you can find another word. I don't like the connotations this one has.

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