Well, my LSE cousin is boring...but on the whole, I like LSEs.
Well, my LSE cousin is boring...but on the whole, I like LSEs.
i'm training in an EII at work and she does a lot of the same irritating things i do when i'm new on a job, lol...like asking the same question five times in a row using different phrasing to make sure she has all her bases covered and doesn't mess anything up. and it drives me nuts but it also makes me kind of facepalm on behalf of myself because i know i'm the same way. the fact that i understand why she's doing it just makes it sort of weird somehow because i don't know how to fix it and i don't feel comfortable trying to make her stop when i get it.
i haven't experienced this kind of frustration so much with friendship, more like the occasional discomfort from time to time because they do/say something embarassing that i totally would have done/said too. lol.
This is a good trait. Sometimes I'll give the same order five times in a row using different phrases.Originally Posted by laghlagh
Whenever I have a meeting that's not part of my routine, I check the location and time, look at the clock, start moving, check again, look at the clock, move some more, repeat.
This thread should be renamed "What do I hate about myself"
IEE-Ne
Lol.
I hate that I enjoy being in control so much.
kinky.
IEE-Ne
kinky adj full of kinks
How so?
Your post was a recipe for kinkiness.
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IEE-Ne
Honestly, I can't say that I've known any other ENFj's personally;but as far as famous people go, it kinda drives me nuts that they seem to be so comfortable with speeches and being in the public eye. I doubt I would be that comfortable.
EIE tritype 5w4, 4w5, 9w1
As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being.
Carl Jung, "Memories, Dreams, Reflections", 1962
That's because... you're IEI?
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Just a lot of practice to get to that comfort level.
I worry about how my IEI friends will make it in the real world when they are so good at ignoring the reality of their situation. And then I have to remind myself that I have the same coping mechanisms…
Several of my friends are IEI, and I love 'em so. But of course I see their weaknesses. Sometimes I see them as timid, self-effacing pushovers. I kinda wanna give 'em a kick in the pants.
Traits about your identical
Name personality traits or characteristics that you have observed in your identical types that:
1. That embarrass you.
2. That you would like to see bred out.
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
The Ne subtypes I've known can't focus for shit. One of them would interrupt himself mid-sentence to say something totally unrelated, pause for a bit, "oh, where was I?"
I hate bread
1. Opportunistic conformity to error or plain evil.
2. Crackpottery, which I think of as Ni gone wild unchecked by T.
3. STj style lack of vision or creativity, kind of the opposite of pt 2.
4. Cold-heartedness bordering on psychopathy.
5. Rambling, drawn out presentations of half-baked ideas coming to no conclusion.
6. General idiocy.
Greetings, ragnar
ILI knowledge-seeker
My identicals don't embarrass me. Most of them are sturdy old guys with good jawlines, a friendly disposition, and plenty of intelligence.
No, I don't want any of them to become bready. That would be nasty.
1. That embarrass you.
Tactless, can make people uncomfortable, somewhat emotionally unresponsive.
2. That you would like to see bread out.
Eh, idk, even bad traits compose a distinct personality, which would otherwise be very different.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
I refuse to answer this question, because it sorta feels like you want me to troll myself lol.
FDG: You've always been nice to me as far as I can remember, even though you are ENTj.
Oh, fine. I'll give in.
I don't like how infps rant against the system/society so much, in a self-defeating way. Nick, Rat, myself, silverchris, all the IEIs on the board have a tendency to rant against pointless things. Often times nothing constructive is really being said and it's just pure raw hate.
I don't know what you are talking about. ESIs are perfect people.
“No psychologist should pretend to understand what he does not understand... Only fools and charlatans know everything and understand nothing.” -Anton Chekhov
http://kevan.org/johari?name=Bardia0
http://kevan.org/nohari?name=Bardia0
- Thinking of whacky ideas without any logical backing.1. That embarrass you.
- Acting too goofy.
- Lack of focus2. That you would like to see bred out.
- Too slow to anger
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
LOL
LOL
heehee; I mean bred...I was hungry when I wrote thatMy identicals don't embarrass me. Most of them are sturdy old guys with good jawlines, a friendly disposition, and plenty of intelligence.
No, I don't want any of them to become bready. That would be nasty.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
All of the above.
When I worked with one who was my only co-worker and above me in the hierarchy, not only did she not protect me from abuse on my PolR, she set me up for it to keep herself safe. Talk about a breach of trust...
Nothing. I don't hate most individuals (human beings), not even the enemy of my enemy
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I second all of this. Watching EIIs is like watching very embarrassing videos of myself.That when I'm watching them be all awkward and stuff, its like watching a video of myself. It hits too close to home if you know what I mean.
They aren't all that helpful for overcoming my weaknesses since they share the same ones.
They can't satisfy myand
They can't defend me against PoLR attacks.
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The only IEI whose type I'm sure of is my ex-boyfriend. I hated the fact that he had all of the same talents as me because I felt like I was competing with him a lot of the time. I also hated his Victim hot/cold tendencies (annoying as fuck) and the way I had to play the SLE and come up with fun things for us to do.
I don't know well any LIE irl.
They say MEAN THINGS THAT HURT MY FEELINGS WHEN THEY DONT MEAN TO!
Oh also I want to hug the shit out of them for being so awsome and they want to hug me too but its usually really awkward cuz we're both dudes and I don't want to admit to this out loud.
Maybe this is why I tend to see some ENTj's in bro-wolfpacks?
Perfect<------------------------------------------------------------------------------>Loops and Tings
Ambivert / Aggressor / Trailblazer / Nomad / Alpha Caretaker / Free Spirit / Kevlar Speed Demon / Ninja
yeah. It's sort of like when I'm hanging out with my IEI brother. We joke easily, understand each other perfectly but when it comes time to get something DONE, we look to my SLE sister-in-law. Thank god my brother found her!
IEI-Fe 4w3
They are self-absorbed and socially inferior to me but won't still understand to get the fuck out of my spotlight.
“I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in — and the West in general — into an unbearable hell and a choking life. - Osama bin Laden
They're kinda mean.
And I feel a teensy bit self conscious around them...
and the really religious ones frustrate me.
Female IEEs can come off as too inauthentically concerned about other people's problems, like they're too eager to express sympathy and it comes off as trying too hard. I've only known two male IEEs: one is an easily-distracted 7w6 who loved to interrupt his own thoughts to make room for other thoughts that have nothing to do with his previous thoughts, and the other was a 6 who I was legitimately able to connect with on an instinctual, intellectual level.
Remember Octo, Starfall...you're talking about yourselves
Anyways, cannot really remember if I met any of my identicals...but what would be annoying is that we would be constantly struggling for who is in control, has the most attention/power...since I want to be at the top and at times the center of attention (in a good way).
Oh hell yeah! Me and Se-ESxp 8w9 sp/sx dude did this in a huge fucking way, and there was another Se-SLE in the mix that one day. We were to the point where we were ready to throw down, we were all wary of each other in this crazyass way; that's passed, we still greet each other with "bitch" or "I'll fuck you in the face with my fist" or whereabouts, then have awesome as hell talks about all sorts of shit (without any words, I explained why the Elite rules more than the Master Chief by physically teabagging the ground right then and there, genuflecting for the Chief and squatting for the Elite)...
As for SEEs? Fucking moody and I don't even know what the moods are! Massive indeterminable gray squall of fucking angst and I don't know if I did anything or not to set it off. As for me, I don't know if I'm pissed or not or why lots of the time, I just try to use whatever rage I got in the best way possible...
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My identicals almost always have one or more of the following qualities which I hate:
- bad social skills, I feel awkward watching them as they fail to communicate
- believe in esoteric bullshit
- act like a knowitall/smartass and correct factual inaccuracies in me or others around me (and that's usually MY role)
- if we don't share common interests they are really boring to talk to
Mine are the salt of the Earth.
Partly but imo octo has the mind of a scientist which seems to be rare among IEIs AND people altogether.
“I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in — and the West in general — into an unbearable hell and a choking life. - Osama bin Laden
the competitive streak that always comes up between us.
how difficult it is to get them to do shit with me sometimes - to plan things together.
what snarky assholes they can be (as i can)
the WORST part is when they act like a victim (and i mean that in the socionics terminology and in the literal way). it wears me down. esp. in arguments. we just never get anywhere. don't like feeling like i have to walk on eggshells (though i see some of that in myself as well).
...but i also like these things lol except maybe the 2nd and the last part.
EDIT:
can we do a thread about what we hate about our mirrors? one of my closest friends is EIE and she pisses me off so often.
"If you can find out little melodies for yourself on the piano it is all very well. But if they come of themselves when you are not at the piano, then you have still greater reason to rejoice; for then the inner sense of music is astir in you. The fingers must make what the head wills, not vice versa."- Robert Schumann
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