I am well aware that VI is highly unreliable, and perhaps even completely useless.
But based purely off it, what would you say is the type of this person?
The person is definitely an ethical type to start.
I will post a description a bit later.
I am well aware that VI is highly unreliable, and perhaps even completely useless.
But based purely off it, what would you say is the type of this person?
The person is definitely an ethical type to start.
I will post a description a bit later.
Classical socionics: (), ILI-Ni
Dual-type theory: INTp-ENTp
5w6 sp/sx
MBTI: INTJ
I'm just testing out how far I've progressed (so don't take this too seriously):
she seems to me to be more Beta/Gamma than Alpha/Delta.
so, if she is ethical:
ENFj
INFp
ESFp
ISFj
she has that alert/"dead" look in her eyes, like she can't relax
(I'm still on my L's though, so please don't take my thoughts too seriously)
I say INFp or ENFj.
Therefore, Beta NF.
D-SEI 9w1
This is me and my dual being scientific together
Interestingly, one of Hitta's invented club descriptions fit her nearly perfectly:
But I question the reliability of this. Nevertheless, somewhat interesting.The Depressives (-Fi/+Fe in ego, +Ti/-Te agenda) INFp; ENFj; ISFj; ESFp
This group feels very depressed and lonely inside. They tend to feel a touch of dissatisfaction with the people in which they are in a relationship with. They push people away. They have a sorrowful and tragic view of the world. They are nice to people. They try to bring out the positive emotions of people. They laugh a lot and attempt to get other people to laugh. This group has a need to organize and study things carefully. This group may read a lot.
Classical socionics: (), ILI-Ni
Dual-type theory: INTp-ENTp
5w6 sp/sx
MBTI: INTJ
INFj is my guess.
INFp
If your sea chart does not match reality, go with reality (Old mariner saying)
yes I also thought Beta NF first, but then I thought there seemed to be some indication of strong Se
but perhaps it is Se HA (>> ENFj)?
(just my interpretation)
It's blatantly obvious, were you to meet her in real life. Proposing that she is a logical type is mildly unheard-of. Unless she happens to be a dreadfully good actress, and for whatever reason, decides to make herself look like the prototype for all ethical types in the universe while in public, while secretly being a logical type. IxTx is particularly laughable. Envisioning her as an INTp, for instance, makes me cry with laughter.
Classical socionics: (), ILI-Ni
Dual-type theory: INTp-ENTp
5w6 sp/sx
MBTI: INTJ
But we haven't met her in real life. I actually didn't even see you wrote that she was ethical I just looked at the pic. I just thought she looked more Fi than Fe in that pic. (And she is quite pretty not sure why you call her mildly dreadful lol.)
INFp
If your sea chart does not match reality, go with reality (Old mariner saying)
struck me first as ISFp/ENFp, more xNFp or ISFj in the last pics, you need to get the red out of her eyes sir you can't see the placement of the eye. I dont see the EIE in her but her long haired friend might be.
Time for a description:
Has a very good posture; walks in an upright manner with a steady pace [possible indicative of rationality?]. Politically and religiously is on the right-wing [if this is of any importance]. Highly sociable. Main pleasurable activity appears to be socializing. Has many friends. Gets along well with most people. Acts in a rather happy/upbeat manner in public, as if constantly attempting to make people be happy. I have never seen her act unhappy in public. Never. It almost seems unhealthy. On the contrary, she very well may behave differently in private, though. Seems rather willing to meet new people. Is a perfectionist academically. Has a rather wide range of extra-curricular activities, most of which are physical endeavors (track, lacrosse, swimming, tennis, sailing, gymnastics, etc.). Is an exceptional actress. Performs very well on stage.
And yes, she is the same person. That is why I was mentioning about her behaving differently in public than in private. The first photograph she took of herself while in private. If you notice, the next three are all taken while she is with many other people. It seems as if she tries to force herself to look and appear happy while around people, even if she absolutely hates the person(s).
Classical socionics: (), ILI-Ni
Dual-type theory: INTp-ENTp
5w6 sp/sx
MBTI: INTJ
could be ESFj?
Hm. Sounds good. For me, personally, ENFj appears most likely = (1) Is ExFx. (2) Values Fe > Fi. (3) Has the "paranoid Beta NF look" in the first picture. (4) Is a Beta, as Beta/Gamma was originally proposed. (5) Lastly, corresponds with Hitta's theory as well (I place this fact of somewhat lesser importance).
Classical socionics: (), ILI-Ni
Dual-type theory: INTp-ENTp
5w6 sp/sx
MBTI: INTJ
I think ENFj is not a bad call at all. This girl, from the description and quite a bit in looks, reminds me of an ENFj friend. She also has lots of friends, is highly skilled academically, very talented performer etc etc.
INFp
If your sea chart does not match reality, go with reality (Old mariner saying)
Classical socionics: (), ILI-Ni
Dual-type theory: INTp-ENTp
5w6 sp/sx
MBTI: INTJ
I don't think she looks very happy at all. The second set of photos does seem to be a facade of trying to look happy... but mostly just trying to "get through it." The first photo it's like the mask is off. In the second set it's like she's disconnected from everyone and everything else, and feels that way, feels empty... in the first one it's like she's in touch with just how empty it all feels, feeling the emptiness...
I could be reading too mcuh into it.
EIE sounds good.
Classical socionics: (), ILI-Ni
Dual-type theory: INTp-ENTp
5w6 sp/sx
MBTI: INTJ
I second ENFj.
D-SEI 9w1
This is me and my dual being scientific together
Hm. That's an interesting point. She is definitely not an ISFp, though. ESFj, on the other hand, is still quite likely. However, she doesn't really seem to value Ne (I may be wrong, of course). I see neither a particular inclination towards Si or Ni, so I will assume a base subtype.
Classical socionics: (), ILI-Ni
Dual-type theory: INTp-ENTp
5w6 sp/sx
MBTI: INTJ
One reason why I believe ENFj > ESFj is this: Most ESFjs to me seem to emit this natural sense of happiness 24/7. They want to make people feel comfortable (Si). But this individual is not really like that. Her happiness, although seemingly quite strong and intense, seems artificial. It's almost as if every morning she forces herself to overdose on anxiolytics, saying to herself "This whole scenario is quite empty and perhaps even depressing when you look at it from an Ni perspective, but I still feel obliged to look happy around people."
Classical socionics: (), ILI-Ni
Dual-type theory: INTp-ENTp
5w6 sp/sx
MBTI: INTJ
haha alright - she certainly looks more ENFj than ESFj to me in most of the pics - do the intertype relations fit between ENFj and INTp?
Better than most other inter-type relations, I would say. It definitely works better than Conflict.
Especially this bit (from Ganin's site):
The Supervisor sees the Supervisee as quite interesting and capable, but incomplete and therefore in need of some help and advice. The Supervisee does not respond to this aid as expected and this will often increase the Supervisor's attempts to change the Supervisee. Because the Supervisee naturally does not understand what it is that the Supervisor wants from them, this may irritate the Supervisor, who thinks that the Supervisee simply does not want to understand.
Classical socionics: (), ILI-Ni
Dual-type theory: INTp-ENTp
5w6 sp/sx
MBTI: INTJ