Type these characteristics

[Slacker]

The difference is this:

Trait: He likes to play sports.

Motivations could be that he is concerned with health and fitness, he is concerned with being part of a group, he likes the socialization and "team spirit" part of sports, he's very competitive, etc.

So just playing sports is a trait. But if you know someone better, you probably have some idea of *why* he likes sports. *Why* he plays sports will tell what he values. The fact that he plays sports isn't enough to go on.

You might have to ask questions. But yes it's still observing people, it's just moving past observing behaviors to observing motivations for behaviors. You do have to make a bit of a leap in guessing the motivations sometimes, and obviously that can cause errors in typings. But hopefully people keep their typings fluid enough that as more information becomes available, they will adjust their typings to make them more accurate.

[Gilly]

Yeah, what she said.

[hellothere]

It is if you are aware of the functions and quadra values, not if you list external traits.

even still, values are not easy to pick out for some individuals.

[Minde]

The difference is this:

Trait: He likes to play sports.

Motivations could be that he is concerned with health and fitness, he is concerned with being part of a group, he likes the socialization and "team spirit" part of sports, he's very competitive, etc.

So just playing sports is a trait. But if you know someone better, you probably have some idea of *why* he likes sports. *Why* he plays sports will tell what he values. The fact that he plays sports isn't enough to go on.

You might have to ask questions. But yes it's still observing people, it's just moving past observing behaviors to observing motivations for behaviors. You do have to make a bit of a leap in guessing the motivations sometimes, and obviously that can cause errors in typings. But hopefully people keep their typings fluid enough that as more information becomes available, they will adjust their typings to make them more accurate.

So you're saying typing someone is more than just observing traits and behaviors, it's also finding the pattern in those behaviors? If that's what you're saying, I can agree with that.

I'm just thinking that behaviors are integral in typing. Otherwise, what information would you have to base your decision on?

Playing sports is a blatant trait. You can't type someone from that alone, mainly because there are so many reasons one would play sports. You can, I believe, type someone (or at least narrow down some options) from all of the smaller and more subtle traits and behaviors that surround it, including what they say about what they do and why but also their demeanor and reactions to various things, etc.

Behavior is defined as how someone acts or reacts to/in their environment. I honestly don't see how you can separate that from the typing process.