So hi, opinions please

[Wittmont]

I think where Socionics is definitely an improvement over MBTI is that Model-A makes it slightly more explicit that we have both introverted and extraverted functions and that there is sucha thing as an "introverted extravert" (SLEs can sometimes come off as rather introverted sometimes, especially when wrapped up in Ti), and an "extraverted introvert" (a .lot of IEIs are easy to confuse with their mirrors or illusionaries sometimes as they can be quite extraverted)

Yup my brother is one of those IEI's People think we are very different, because I am bookish and withdrawn, while he is outgoing and gregarious, but function wise we work much the same. He is a Fe subtype.

[xyz]

I don't even know why you let other people even convince you into ENTERTAINING the idea of you being an extravert. C'mon now!

[Wittmont]

I might do that when I get home. But I think i've posted more than enough pictures..and i did post 2 videos before. People are still confused, no conclusions were drawn. I don't know, i think it's a bit pointless as people are all across the board when it comes to my type; how i am online is NOT how i am in real life, I don't think people grasp that concept.

I wish you would do a thread like the one Mona did. But if you feel uncomfortable talking about yourself that might not be a good idea.

[jessica129]

I don't even know why you let other people even convince you into ENTERTAINING the idea of you being an extravert. C'mon now!

Yeah, it's getting on my nerves a bit. I know I'm not, but then i'll read someones reasons why I "seem" extroverted and i'll start thinking well maybe i am and then i'll start getting confused all over again. I need to stop.

Wittmont, I may do it. I am a little uncomfortable with the idea of it along with my pictures for all to see, but we'll see.

[Mariano Rajoy]

Everyone needs to attend the socionics meetings and conferences more.

[xyz]

Well if they had it somewhere near the west coast I'd be more inclined to go. I see a $400 plane ticket for atlanta as it is.

[xyz]

Yeah, it's getting on my nerves a bit. I know I'm not, but then i'll read someones reasons why I "seem" extroverted and i'll start thinking well maybe i am and then i'll start getting confused all over again. I need to stop.

Wittmont, I may do it. I am a little uncomfortable with the idea of it along with my pictures for all to see, but we'll see.

Yeah, online interaction is incredibly skewed and limited.. So fuck em all =]
You are what you think you are and what people close to you say you are.

[Blaze]

Yeah, online interaction is incredibly skewed and limited.. So fuck em all =]
You are what you think you are and what people close to you say you are.

yeah fuck everybody. lol.

ok so you think your lead is Si or Ti?

[Gilly]

Jess, do me a favour. Description of yourself and your hobbies, your beliefs and values, and maybe a few pictures.

Your plans for your life would be good, too. Expat once did typings based on ideal retirement scenarios; something along those lines could help.

[jessica129]

The problem with explaining myself is that is I'm a very indecisive person. Goals and hobbies and preferences and sometimes my personality seems change daily, i'm serious. It's hard to pin it down. Is that type related

[jessica129]

It sounds like you're saying that you're a day to day, in the moment kind of person that doesn't enjoy looking too far into the future?

Very, very much so.

[xyz]

Do you like puppies?

[jessica129]

Do you like puppies?

Who doesnt?

Are we getting closer to my type????!!!111

[jessica129]

I do background checks on people. But don't assume it's my chosen career, I hate every minute of it. I don't know what i really want to do, the law enforcement field has always been an interest of mine, i'd probobly do something in that if i could.

[xyz]

Hey, don't arrest me ok? I'll make it worth your while.

[Gilly]

The problem with explaining myself is that is I'm a very indecisive person. Goals and hobbies and preferences and sometimes my personality seems change daily, i'm serious. It's hard to pin it down. Is that type related

Not LSI but I relate to you in this, except being indecisive; the only time I'm indecisive is when I'm high and can't figure out which cereal I want to eat

[xyz]

I would actually love to be a detective but going through the whole "be a police officer for 8 years" is not something i want to deal with. Dealing with crying mothers and idiotic vaginal blood farts is not something I enjoy.

What kind of copper jessica?

[jessica129]

I would actually love to be a detective but going through the whole "be a police officer for 8 years" is not something i want to deal with. Dealing with crying mothers and idiotic vaginal blood farts is not something I enjoy.

What kind of copper jessica?

I've never had an interest in being a police officer, i've always wanted to be in the investigation type area...the CSI's, the FBI, private investigators..ah, that's my dream job.

[xyz]

Yeah I was looking into that myself but apperently you have to start as a cop for awhile before anyone would let you near a detective type job

I'd like just showing up with a dead body in front of my foot and then taking out a piece of paper and trying to piece together how this fucker broke his knee and got that fork through his skull.

[jessica129]

Yeah, I don't think i could ever handle being a police officer for that long. That's one of the reasons i never pursued it. I don't really like the idea of sitting around radaring traffic like the a**hole cops around my area just to get my foot in the door. And I'd probobly end up shooting someone in a rage, don't think i could trust myself with a gun.

[xyz]

Yeah, I sadly quickly dropped the detective aspirations cuza that. I'm not sure it's for 8 years (i think it's around 2-5), but just like you said I'd hate to be the one fucker just radaring on the road, and enforcing certain laws that I just didn't agree with (although whooping people's asses could make up for that ha).

[ScarlettLux]

Jessica and Loki are definitely identicals!

[UDP]

Where can i find a straight-forward, no nonsense description of the differences between introversion and extroversion in socionics...in plain english? Something that gives detailed examples and doesn't contain those damn shapes or speak of POLR-superego-second function-conflicting relations blah blah blah nonsense? I refuse to sift thru that garbage, it means nothing to me.

http://socionist.blogspot.com/search/label/extraversion

best description yet. and the vids that demonstrate this are excellent, too.

Thanks sunshine, that was a good link. It only confirms again I am not an "extrovert"...something which i've pretty much known all along.

Wow, I"ve never seen that before. That makes things much more clear.

Nice article, Rick.

[xyz]

Guess that means Jessica and I are butt buddies. The latest thing for me has been to kinda figure out wtf i like to do since I feel like I like to do lots of unconnected shit.

And UDP it actually does help, cuz now instead of 16 choices you have 8!

[Wittmont]

Jessica and Loki are definitely identicals!

Lol yes, they even talk in the same way how cute ^_^

[Wittmont]

Ne (interest/boredom) + Ti (logical and structure) as leading blocks

Fi PoLR

Fe Hidden Agenda

Does ILE make sense here?

Edit: Hmm, not really. too much "I" I think, but the Ne has to be there somewhere surely?

Or LII!

[UDP]

And UDP it actually does help, cuz now instead of 16 choices you have 8!

I was not joking.

[Ezra]

You're too nervy to be an IP, Jess. And nervy you are; it comes through in your writing and in your videos. I don't mean nervous, I mean nervy.

But seriously, we need some sort of a description. This will be so much better. At the moment, we just have random clippings of your thoughts about bullshit, like the fact that you like puppies.

So talk about your beliefs and values. If they are erratic and yo-yoish, then say so. If you can't do that, then how about saying what you spend your time doing. Talk about what kinds of people you love, and what kinds of people you hate, without saying anything about certain types, or certain functions.

[jessica129]

Why couldn't an IP be nervy? I'm won't deny it, I don't know much about socionics. But had you met me IRL, I can almost assure you estp wouldn't even cross your mind. But yes, I am going to post another thread on my type when i get the time..and this time it will be the last one.

[Slacker]

Define nervy and why you think IPs can't be it.

Yeah really. There's no sense to that.

[redbaron]

Define nervy and why you think IPs can't be it.

Seriously. I'm nervy and I've been told by several different people that I'm a troublemaker as well (in a fond sense of the word. um, I think).

[Ezra]

I was going off this. Basically, it seems like the IP is generally relaxed and unhurried, which is what nervy people are not, and Jess seemed quite alive and active in her video, and her posts seem hurried.

[redbaron]

I was going off this. Basically, it seems like the IP is generally relaxed and unhurried, which is what nervy people are not, and Jess seemed quite alive and active in her video, and her posts seem hurried.

Oh okay. I thought you meant "nervy" as in "she has SOME NERVE!"= willing to take risks or whatever. I didn't realize you meant nervous. (tho I have to say that if I'm worried about something I can also seem nervous, moving around the house, unable to settle down. but only when something's bothering me). Anyway. Sorry about that.

[xyz]

Maybe she's nervous about showing herself to a bunch of strangers online.

[Christy B]

Where can i find a straight-forward, no nonsense description of the differences between introversion and extroversion in socionics...in plain english? Something that gives detailed examples and doesn't contain those damn shapes or speak of POLR-superego-second function-conflicting relations blah blah blah nonsense? I refuse to sift thru that garbage, it means nothing to me.

This is SLI way of talking.

[jessica129]

I'm always nervous. Always. And just because i'm curious, wouldn't a VIDEO be more accurate in typing than 3 pictures? I think my video showed more of the 'real' me than the pictures.

[Ezra]

Chuck Norris' tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried.

[Expat]

I'm always nervous. Always.

About what, if I may ask?

[jessica129]

About what, if I may ask?

I don't know exactly, life in general. Not to the point it interferes with anything, but i've always been a little...tense.

[Expat]

Well, generally speaking, SLIs are among the least tense of all types, in the way you are describing.