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[aestrivex]

Thanks for not explaining yourself and pretending to be holier than everyone else here. I clearly did not say anything that would imply stupidity on my part. Nothing. So shut the fuck up and go back to your cage

basically the complaint lies with the way you present this kind of information. you started talking about MBTI and enneagram tests and actually use these ridiculous online excercises as evidence for a particular type. you then basically doctored the guy as a beta whom you got along with well, until suddenly you decided he was an IEE and thus a delta whom you hated (this is an exaggeration, but this is really what it seemed like). from the video, too, this guy was talking about S/N. this is an MBTI dichotomy. (which doesn't necessarily reflect on you if he has some kind of outside knowledge, but it didn't really sound like that).

now you and ezra have flown past anything remotely socionics related and declared this guy the second coming of thomas henry huxley.

are you people even discussing socionics or merely mixed internet psychobabble? either way, you both appear have a knack for drawing conclusions out of lots of meaningless, irrelevant information.

[ScarlettLux]

basically the complaint lies with the way you present this kind of information. you started talking about MBTI and enneagram tests and actually use these ridiculous online excercises as evidence for a particular type. you then basically doctored the guy as a beta whom you got along with well, until suddenly you decided he was an IEE and thus a delta whom you hated (this is an exaggeration, but this is really what it seemed like). from the video, too, this guy was talking about S/N. this is an MBTI dichotomy. (which doesn't necessarily reflect on you if he has some kind of outside knowledge, but it didn't really sound like that).

now you and ezra have flown past anything remotely socionics related and declared this guy the second coming of thomas henry huxley.

are you people even discussing socionics or merely mixed internet psychobabble? either way, you both appear have a knack for drawing conclusions out of lots of meaningless, irrelevant information.

Wow Niffweed. Are you saying you have never once used an online test before? That you somehow got into Socionics of your own free volition without prior testing? The only reason I even KNOW about Socionics is because of a similarminds test, and that was some random web surfing, etc. I had no idea about it, so what is so wrong about me saying, oh hey, coolio, and taking the test? I do not rely on it however, as I did first get INFJ as a result. Then I stumbled upon Socionics and the whole idea behind it, read a lot more, (it took a while for the theory to sink in, but note when I joined this forum in Oct '05!) and realized that this was much, much more sensible.

I then basically doctored the guy as a Beta?
Oh, are you trying to say that I wrote it as if I "wanted" him to be Beta, to skew your perceptions of him? No, I was not! I was trying to go against what he got on that similarminds test because I know it is not entirely reliable! I just wanted you guys to have a different view of him, I really don't care what quadra he is in, but it is true we do get along.

Wait, I decided he was a Delta later on? I am really confused, Niff, where you pulling this crap out of? Just based on what I said in this one thread? It was just me rambling on and going through the possibilities of what he COULD be ... maybe that's why it seems I'm jumping back & forth, but not for the reasons YOU think.

Like what Ezra said, I know that ABCD != ABCd, but I still give my friends those similarminds tests to "spark" their interest in this whole shebang anyhow ... and I go from there to keep trying to type them. It's not horribly unrealistic (the test) ... I mean, most of the time, I'd have to say it will get at least two or three "letters" right - but then you're going to go and rant on about how letters don't matter in Socionics .. I know! UGH, it's just that I'm using the test as a basis to work with, not a means to an end.

He has some outside knowledge based only on MBTI, which I am trying to shake him out of. That's why I was clearly laughing when he started talking about it, and knew that you guys would be rolling your eyes and telling him how that S/N dichotomy is not important. Unfortunately, it's hard to explain the entirety of Socionics to someone like that ... he seems to hate drowning in information (definitely some kind of or PoLR) or understanding anything in depth.

LOL, now you just make no sense ... we never declared he was IEE. (@ the huxley comment)

And then finally your last statement: Hilarious b/c it seems to be YOU that rarely ever contributes anything serious (as you are doing now, good on ya) and rather engage in posting meaningless, irrelevant stuff

Oh, and if you really want me to say something "psycho-babble"-ish, then I guess I have to say I think you're PROJECTING o0o0o0o

[aestrivex]

Wow Niffweed. Are you saying you have never once used an online test before?

no, and everything you said has to do with using the test to find out that socionics even existed. it's quite different from what you're doing here, which is using the test as a springboard for MBTI.

I then basically doctored the guy as a Beta?
Oh, are you trying to say that I wrote it as if I "wanted" him to be Beta, to skew your perceptions of him? No, I was not! I was trying to go against what he got on that similarminds test because I know it is not entirely reliable! I just wanted you guys to have a different view of him, I really don't care what quadra he is in, but it is true we do get along.

Wait, I decided he was a Delta later on? I am really confused, Niff, where you pulling this crap out of? Just based on what I said in this one thread? It was just me rambling on and going through the possibilities of what he COULD be ... maybe that's why it seems I'm jumping back & forth, but not for the reasons YOU think.

here's an idea: instead of "going against what he got on that similarminds test" or trying to minimize the influence of any other information, why don't you just tell us about him and leave the bullshit aside?

Like what Ezra said, I know that ABCD != ABCd, but I still give my friends those similarminds tests to "spark" their interest in this whole shebang anyhow ... and I go from there to keep trying to type them.

sparking their interest is a far cry from using it as a springboard to type somebody.

It's not horribly unrealistic (the test) ... I mean, most of the time, I'd have to say it will get at least two or three "letters" right

on what basis? now you're pulling shit out of your ass again.

- but then you're going to go and rant on about how letters don't matter in Socionics .. I know! UGH, it's just that I'm using the test as a basis to work with, not a means to an end.

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you honestly do not see how contradictory this is?

He has some outside knowledge based only on MBTI, which I am trying to shake him out of. That's why I was clearly laughing when he started talking about it, and knew that you guys would be rolling your eyes and telling him how that S/N dichotomy is not important. Unfortunately, it's hard to explain the entirety of Socionics to someone like that ... he seems to hate drowning in information (definitely some kind of or PoLR) or understanding anything in depth.

point taken, but this only stems from the fact that you're going about emphasizing the wrong points to start off with in socionics. perhaps that might be more effective to get an Fe type to understand it, but, if so, that only demonstrates further why Ti/Fe people are freaks.

LOL, now you just make no sense ... we never declared he was IEE. (@ the huxley comment)

ezra certainly did. and you sounded like you agreed with him.

And then finally your last statement: Hilarious b/c it seems to be YOU that rarely ever contributes anything serious (as you are doing now, good on ya) and rather engage in posting meaningless, irrelevant stuff

Oh, and if you really want me to say something "psycho-babble"-ish, then I guess I have to say I think you're PROJECTING o0o0o0o

yes, thank you for that highly pertinent bit of scathing criticism. i bow to you for your incredible capacity to keep the discussion on the topic of socionics and refrain from falling back into personal insults. it's really quite extraordinary when someone such as yourself comes along and simply steers the discussion towards the right place out of sheer will. after all, we wouldn't want to engage in nonrelevant insults; somebody's feelings might get hurt. and we can't have that. and heretofore the dragons will travel hence the land of silt, and on the seventh day petals fell in petaluma; lewis, be dead.



i'm done with this discussion. continue to bash me as you wish.

[Ezra]

now you and ezra have flown past anything remotely socionics related and declared this guy the second coming of thomas henry huxley.

WRONG.

Do you not see the Si? I do. And from the descriptions, the Fe? I do. General Alpha SF atmosphere? Evidently not EJ by his posture, speech and thought patterns?

THANKYOU.

[aestrivex]

this is exactly what i was expecting.

[aestrivex]

WRONG.

Do you not see the Si? I do. And from the descriptions, the Fe? I do. General Alpha SF atmosphere? Evidently not EJ by his posture, speech and thought patterns?

THANKYOU.

no; i see IEI. but i also a significant paucity of information. and the fact that you don't see the latter is highly suggestive of your own competence. now shut up.