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    ESE: "everybody else is so rude".

    SEI: "everybody else is so stressed".

    LII: "everybody else is blind to the obvious".

    ILE: "everybody else lacks imagination".

    LSI: "everybody else needs to toe the line more."

    EIE: "everybody else is a loser".

    IEI: "everybody else is so naive".

    SLE: "everybody else is a nuisance, unless they make me laugh".

    LIE: "everybody else is inefficient".

    ILI: "everybody else is so ignorant".

    ESI: "everybody else is so disloyal".

    SEE: "everybody else is so helpless".

    LSE: "everybody else is so lazy".

    SLI: "everybody else is so incompetent".

    EII: "everybody else is so distrustful".

    IEE: "everybody else is so small-minded".
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    Wow, Expat, the quality of your picture has been massively enhanced. It looks much better now it's not shittily pixelated.

    Mine is a mix of LIE, EIE and SLE, sometimes with a bit of LSE thrown in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    ESE: "everybody else is so rude".

    SEI: "everybody else is so stressed".

    LII: "everybody else is blind to the obvious".

    ILE: "everybody else lacks imagination".

    LSI: "everybody else needs to toe the line more."

    EIE: "everybody else is a loser".

    IEI: "everybody else is so naive".

    SLE: "everybody else is a nuisance, unless they make me laugh".

    LIE: "everybody else is inefficient".

    ILI: "everybody else is so ignorant".

    ESI: "everybody else is so disloyal".

    SEE: "everybody else is so helpless".

    LSE: "everybody else is so lazy".

    SLI: "everybody else is so incompetent".

    EII: "everybody else is so distrustful".

    IEE: "everybody else is so small-minded".
    Is that so?

    Anyway, how do you reach these conclusions? Obviously an emphasis on ego functions, particularly the first, but what else? How is this different from sober times?
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    Edit: What do you mean by "toe the line," Expat? Follow the rules more closely, or live closer to "what one can get away with?"

    I believe it's a different picture, Ezra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    Anyway, how do you reach these conclusions? Obviously an emphasis on ego functions, particularly the first, but what else? How is this different from sober times?
    When you're sober, you're less likely to make this kind of sweeping, simplistic statements.

    It's the ego with a bit of hidden agenda and quadra generally, "shaped" my my observations.

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    Edit: What do you mean by "toe the line," Expat? Follow the rules more closely, or live closer to "what one can get away with?".
    The former. I didn't realize it would be ambiguous.
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    Mmm. I generally read "toe the line" as "come close to crossing the line." But I've been informed that this is wrong by multiple people in my immediate vicinity My apologies.

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    In the Britiish Parliament, the government and opposition MPs sit at at opposite sides, facing each other. There is a line on the floor in front of the front benches. They are meant to prevent the MPs from fighting each other (as they were prone to, in the old days). So if two MPs would stand on the floor and start shouting at each other, the Speaker would say, "toe the line!" to prevent them from actually fighting.
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    Those are great Expat I like the practical side of socionics that shows us sides of ourselves based upon observation.

    IEI: "everybody else is so naive".

    I do recall a time or two, when drunk at parties, I've spent hours in discussion with others trying to get them to see the bigger picture heh (Ofc paradoxically I am always painfully aware of my own naivety in other things)

    Comment on the avatar Ezra commented on: yes wasn't she drinking tea in the previous pic? Btw I think she got back in power the other week heh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    ILI: "everybody else is so ignorant".



    everybody else is ignorant? really?


    i wouldn't need to be drunk to say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    ESE: "everybody else is so rude".

    SEI: "everybody else is so stressed".

    LII: "everybody else is blind to the obvious".

    ILE: "everybody else lacks imagination".

    LSI: "everybody else needs to toe the line more."

    EIE: "everybody else is a loser".

    IEI: "everybody else is so naive".

    SLE: "everybody else is a nuisance, unless they make me laugh".

    LIE: "everybody else is inefficient".

    ILI: "everybody else is so ignorant".

    ESI: "everybody else is so disloyal".

    SEE: "everybody else is so helpless".

    LSE: "everybody else is so lazy".

    SLI: "everybody else is so incompetent".

    EII: "everybody else is so distrustful".

    IEE: "everybody else is so small-minded".
    for some reason i understand everybody's but my own. can u elaborate more on this expat? i guess without this i would say ILI, LIE, and ESI in that order.
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    I am extremely drunk right now...mostly because my tolerance is that of a five-year-old. I just tested INFp and have been playing guitar hero III and watching porn for the past hour. I honestly don't know why I'm making this post. If I were to coin my perception of my superiority over others with a phrase, I would say, "they are just soo dumb..."....but that's not type-related, I just find most people ignorant and/or stupid.

    but I love you guys....except for niffweed cause he put me on his 'ignore list'.....gee....fuck ya niffy, I'd drop your ass in a second anyway.....

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    My drunken musings tend to revolve around why people can't give each other the benefit of the doubt and/or swallow their pride. When I witness how this affects relationships between people to the negative (like last weekend, what a catastrophe), it's all I can think about even for days afterward.
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    My drunken rants are about how I love everybody but I forgot to tell them usually. So I go around telling everybody that I love them, kind of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
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    lol, I'm such an idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    My drunken rants are about how I love everybody but I forgot to tell them usually. So I go around telling everybody that I love them, kind of.
    There was this gay guy at my high school, and a lot of people took the piss out of him, including one guy, who met him at a party, and goes "arrrr, I fucking love you, Rik, if I ever take the piss out of you again you can hit me mate". I'm pretty sure that was not the last time he took the piss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    I am extremely drunk right now...mostly because my tolerance is that of a five-year-old. I just tested INFp and have been playing guitar hero III and watching porn for the past hour. I honestly don't know why I'm making this post. If I were to coin my perception of my superiority over others with a phrase, I would say, "they are just soo dumb..."....but that's not type-related, I just find most people ignorant and/or stupid.

    but I love you guys....except for niffweed cause he put me on his 'ignore list'.....gee....fuck ya niffy, I'd drop your ass in a second anyway.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive View Post
    for some reason i understand everybody's but my own. can u elaborate more on this expat? i guess without this i would say ILI, LIE, and ESI in that order.
    I wasn't sure how to summarize the SEE, that's one I'm least happy with.

    I meant to convey the image that the SEE is essentially a go-getter kind of person who's usually unafraid and will find a way to try something, especially in social situations -- often falling on their faces or shooting themselves in the foot, true, but trying again without missing a beat. So the only thing I could think of was the "helpless" thing. I will think of something else.
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    SEE - "Everyone else is so inhibited."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    SEE - "Everyone else is so inhibited."
    That's very good.
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    I sometimes think "everyone else is so boring" besides the person I'm talking to. Or if I'm not interested in that person, I try to exit the conversation to find someone interesting to talk to. I also tend to think "everyone is too stressed". Sometimes I do think people are naive or blind to stuff that seems clear to me but I don't need to be drunk to think that. Usually if I let myself get a bit tipsy (not often) it's because I'm trying to relax and have fun, not ponder the meaning of the universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    ILI: "everybody else is so ignorant".

    IEE: "everybody else is so small-minded".
    I relate to these 2 when I drink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    ESE: "everybody else is so rude".
    Dang, maybe Dio was right in calling me an ESE!



    (and everyone is seriously fucking rude)
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    Quote Originally Posted by force my hand View Post
    Dang, maybe Dio was right in calling me an ESE!



    (and everyone is seriously fucking rude)
    I still think LSI, fwiw (I'll admit that's based mostly on VI, albeit a VERY convincing resemblance to a few LSIs I know).
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    I still think LSI, fwiw (I'll admit that's based mostly on VI, albeit a VERY convincing resemblance to a few LSIs I know).
    I don't know, G. I for the life of me can't make any sense of that. I'm strangely satisfied with SLI.
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    bumping, again because i think it's a great post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    ESE: "everybody else is so rude".

    SEI: "everybody else is so stressed".

    LII: "everybody else is blind to the obvious".

    ILE: "everybody else lacks imagination".

    LSI: "everybody else needs to toe the line more."

    EIE: "everybody else is a loser".

    IEI: "everybody else is so naive".

    SLE: "everybody else is a nuisance, unless they make me laugh".

    LIE: "everybody else is inefficient".

    ILI: "everybody else is so ignorant".

    ESI: "everybody else is so disloyal".

    SEE: "everybody else is so helpless".

    LSE: "everybody else is so lazy".

    SLI: "everybody else is so incompetent".

    EII: "everybody else is so distrustful".

    IEE: "everybody else is so small-minded".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    ESE: "everybody else is so rude".

    SEI: "everybody else is so stressed".

    LII: "everybody else is blind to the obvious".

    ILE: "everybody else lacks imagination".

    LSI: "everybody else needs to toe the line more."

    EIE: "everybody else is a loser".

    IEI: "everybody else is so naive".

    SLE: "everybody else is a nuisance, unless they make me laugh".

    LIE: "everybody else is inefficient".

    ILI: "everybody else is so ignorant".

    ESI: "everybody else is so disloyal".

    SEE: "everybody else is so helpless".

    LSE: "everybody else is so lazy".

    SLI: "everybody else is so incompetent".

    EII: "everybody else is so distrustful".

    IEE: "everybody else is so small-minded".
    more comments?

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    was that a compliment or a put down?
    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
    If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana View Post
    Neither. It was just an observation. And an accurate one imo, except I think I say more than when I'm sober, with less thought as to how it might be received.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    ESI: "everybody else is so disloyal".
    My ESI mom doesn't have to be drunk for her to express this sentiment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    what if someone's intoxicated criticisms tend to begin with "i am"
    So instead of "I am x," say "Everyone else isn't x enough."

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    Quote Originally Posted by esper View Post
    Why wouldn't an SLE be the one saying this? This is one of the things that confuses me in how SLE is characterized vs. LIE. Because, in my experience, if I have indeed typed correctly, a certain type of SLE comes off to others as "a nuisance, unless they make [you] laugh," but is usually more likely to say "everybody else is inefficient" or "everybody else is incompetent."
    A SLE could well say that, as well as the "incompetent" -- after all, there is a fine line between "incompetent" and "inefficient", and from those you can easily go to "nuisance".

    What I tried to say was:

    - "incompetent" - Te + Si
    - "inefficient" - Te + Ni
    - "nuisance" - Se with Ti
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    When I'm drunk I love everyone, even if they're complete asshats towards me most of the time
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