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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratsshadow View Post
    Your observations mean jack shit to me.
    Well thats just as good because your opinions/posts mean jack shit to me, shithead.
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    Hidden Agenda is a overrated concept, mostly derived from resolute / reasonable for J types, merry / serious for P types.
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    And misleading too, at least the term "hidden agenda" is, considering socionics is not a theory on motivations.
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    I think a Base function sub-type has better HA skills, and a Creative function sub-type better suggestive skills.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    Thoughts motivate behavior... socionics describes behavior in detail using the functions
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratsshadow View Post
    Your observations mean jack shit to me.
    Well thats just as good because your opinions/posts mean jack shit to me, shithead.
    At least I back up what I say

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    Crazedrat did you read all this somewhere about subtypes, or have you observed/discovered it yourself?

    It sounds interesting and correct.

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    I took the system and extended it one step further using the principles of model A.

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