Examples of Socionics Alpha types

[FreelancePoliceman]

The word expensive is relative. For example, if somebody grew up in a wealthy househould, having a yatch is like having a cell phone, everybody owns one in their world. I know people who are very above and very below average in terms of economic income and wealth. Hence, I witnessed one can consider something as high status symbol whereas other person can find the same thing as low status.

Saying alpha NTs cant own anything more than a car, is too much caricaturization that people can draw so many wrong conclusions although it may not be his aim.

Cell phones are more or less necessary in this world, while even for the rich owning a yacht is a status symbol. Most people who buy them hardly use them, and usually it would be less of a hassle, and less cost, to just rent or borrow one. I also don't know how owning a yacht could possibly be seen as "low status" unless you're richer than Croesus: it's a sign to the world that you have so much money you can spend a great amount of it on something frivolous.

I dont know any ILEs, you can be right. LIIs don't like to show off, but I don't think it makes them blind to status. Due to having relations with people with different economic background, I noticed that I prefer to fit in status wise, in other words, I don't want to be pointed out or point out someone's status even if it is high. When people say things to other people like you are rich, you can buy xyz without thinking right etc, that makes me cringe. I can see that other person does not know what to do, because it is their normal. It feels like a form of exclusion. Ofcourse reverse scenario would be more terrifying, luckily that rarely happens.
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It's too reductionistic, but that also doesn't mean what Alive wrote is necessarily without any truth. Would you say a multi-millionaire LII is just as likely to buy a yacht or something as, say, an SEE?

[myresearch]

Cell phones are more or less necessary in this world, while even for the rich owning a yacht is a status symbol. Most people who buy them hardly use them, and usually it would be less of a hassle, and less cost, to just rent or borrow one.

That is your point of view based on the lifestyles that you observed.

I also don't know how owning a yacht could possibly be seen as "low status" unless you're richer than Croesus: it's a sign to the world that you have so much money you can spend a great amount of it on something frivolous.

I didn't say yatch could be seen as low status. I said people can see something as high status when other people see it as low status. Just consider xyz brand model car that is not high end.

Some people have a great amount of money and it is not too much to spend for them.

It's too reductionistic, but that also doesn't mean what Alive wrote is necessarily without any truth. Would you say a multi-millionaire LII is just as likely to buy a yacht or something as, say, an SEE?

Yes, multi-millionaire LII can also buy a yatch, or they may not. Ofcourse, LII would be different than SEE. However, you seem to think that yatch is status symbol independent from the amount of wealth and lifestyle.

Besides, you know an average house cost more than a car, right?

[FreelancePoliceman]

That is your point of view based on the lifestyles that you observed.

Well sure, but everyone only has access to the information they’ve observed, directly or indirectly.

I didn't say yatch could be seen as low status. I said people can see something as high status when other people see it as low status. Just consider xyz brand model car that is not high end.

Some people have a great amount of money and it is not too much to spend for them.

I apologize for misinterpreting then. But no matter how much money you have, buying a yacht is still likely to be done for status concerns for the reasons I mentioned — they don’t tend to be used often enough to justify the purchase on the grounds of their utility.

Yes, multi-millionaire LII can also buy a yatch, or they may not. Ofcourse, LII would be different than SEE. However, you seem to think that yatch is status symbol independent from the amount of wealth and lifestyle.

Besides, you know an average house cost more than a car, right?

I do think it’s a status symbol, yes. Even if money is absolutely nothing to you, it does take considerable effort to buy a yacht, figure out where to keep it, pay insurance on it, and remove it from storage whenever you want to use it. If you just want to go sailing on a yacht sometimes it’s probably easier to rent or borrow one.

And re. houses, sure, but that goes without saying.

[Still Alive]

I do think it’s a status symbol, yes. Even if money is absolutely nothing to you, it does take considerable effort to buy a yacht, figure out where to keep it, pay insurance on it, and remove it from storage whenever you want to use it.

I get a headache from even thinking about all that stuff.

[myresearch]

Well sure, but everyone only has access to the information they’ve observed, directly or indirectly.

I apologize for misinterpreting then. But no matter how much money you have, buying a yacht is still likely to be done for status concerns for the reasons I mentioned — they don’t tend to be used often enough to justify the purchase on the grounds of their utility.

I do think it’s a status symbol, yes. Even if money is absolutely nothing to you, it does take considerable effort to buy a yacht, figure out where to keep it, pay insurance on it, and remove it from storage whenever you want to use it. If you just want to go sailing on a yacht sometimes it’s probably easier to rent or borrow one.

People who have certain amount of net worth, have more assets that they can control and maintain on their own. There are tools and services for them to manage their assets and maintain them with less effort on their part.

It is also difficult to manage thousands of employees and clients. Again there are tools, methods and services to help that management.

People who a few billion dollars, generally have things that most people consider as a status symbol and luxurious regardless of their socionics type. However, without those items, those people have status anyways.

And re. houses, sure, but that goes without saying.

The main point of the original argument is that alpha NTs wouldn't own any thing cost more than a car.

People who have billions would have lots of things that cost more than a car.

Human behavior >> Type behavior

Noone would sit on that great amount of money. As humans we only need a roof over our heads, a piece of clothing and some food to fill our stomach. Nevertheless, people who have more money buy things that cost more and more.

The amount of money would have a greater affect on how much people spend money than socionics type. Se ego who earn less than 50 K a year will spend less than Ne ego who earns millions in a month.

Kings lived in luxury, they ruled, they had the authority regardless of their type. They didn't say I don't care and prefer to live in another way.