Examples of Socionics Alpha types

[nifl]

Oh Land
ILE

[Rusal]

María Eugenia Vidal - former governor of Buenos Aires- ESE
Beta NF is a more distant possibility.
(sol might type SEI...)

[nifl]

The woman on the bottom right is Fe, maybe SEI

María Eugenia Vidal

IEI, EIE

[Rusal]

IEI, EIE

I would have no objection to your typing: I can actually see where you're coming from with your impression of her as NF. That's exactly why I posted her here, as an example that many times too much trust in put on these impressions. What's more: the more I watch her the more ESE non-verbals aren't far off so I can't object my own typing from that angle.

Argentinian society and what was happening when she was governor is more enlightening. Leaders here tend to rely on the image of a strong and ideological leader (Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, whom I've seen mistyped as IEI, is actually an EIE and a good example of what I'm talking about…) because any different kind of people would have trouble managing the unruly segments that have typically been described as forming the Argentine character. A representation that was an anathema to her.
At the time she was in office the news spread that she herself and her family had received death threats, so she moved into army headquarters. She had the demanding schedule of a politician in office + drug dealers that were threatening violence against her so this reporter comes to her house surrounded by military facilities and out of the blue she produces a homemade sponge cake. That's way too far from the tradition for local leaders. That she did that while on a hectic and tight schedule indicates ESE's low Ni + her nonverbals.

[Sol]

Donna Clayton - ESFJ

Maria Eugenia Vidal - mb INFP

[godslave]

I think she has an SEI sociotype. Some will probably say "Lavendaire - N" or "Lavendaire mb IEI". She definitely has an Ip temperament.

Btw, I've seen a lot of clones of this channel, in fact I didn't investigate to find out who is the originel Youtuber who came up first with this kind of content but they are all copy of each others. I mean the same vibe, the same kind of music, the same kind of editing etc... One of the things they have in common is that they all have more than one Million subscribers !

[nifl]

Fergal Mullally
maybe ILE

Lavendaire - NF, mb EIE

[Sol]

Bella (Personality Trainer) - ISFP

[Sol]

Voyevoda (Teddy Bar) [left] - mb ESFJ
some Fe

[Rusal]

Bella (Personality Trainer) - IEI also likely.

[Rusal]

in fact Ni "social adaptation/incarnation" is very expected from Si doms (most people don't achieve their social mission and make do with social adaptation)

I don't think so or I'm not totally convinced by the phrasing. Alpha SFs coming to spirituality, tarotism, etc. is a revelation of their nature: either as something curious to pay attention to or to prod the world of the possible/impossible (ne valuing).
The difference with some Ni might lie in what they do with it. Compare an ESE that studies the signs with an EIE that studies ancient prophecies, for example: the ESE mentions solar, Moon signs, considers any possible relevance, then continues to ponder them; the EIE has prophecies of doomsday, of how the world is lost and links the prophecies to her dramatic nature. The ESE wants to spread a deck of ‘facts’ to factor in; the EIE wants gloom to resonate with.

With some things is less about the what but more about why and what do they do with it.

[kuno]

Alizée, one of my favorite pop singers! I believe she is SEI and 9w1.

[Rusal]

Seth Meyers - ILE

[Sol]

Sigrid Lund - ISFP

[Rusal]

Maybe this goes here

[nifl]

Maybe this goes here

possibly ILE, so maybe
alternatively, SLE

[Sol]

Christine Baranski - mb ENTJ, or E-Ti

[Northstar]

Sigrid Lund - ISFP

You accidentally posted this with your Sol account instead of your fake danish nifl account.

[timber]

I don't think so or I'm not totally convinced by the phrasing. Alpha SFs coming to spirituality, tarotism, etc. is a revelation of their nature: either as something curious to pay attention to or to prod the world of the possible/impossible (ne valuing).
The difference with some Ni might lie in what they do with it. Compare an ESE that studies the signs with an EIE that studies ancient prophecies, for example: the ESE mentions solar, Moon signs, considers any possible relevance, then continues to ponder them; the EIE has prophecies of doomsday, of how the world is lost and links the prophecies to her dramatic nature. The ESE wants to spread a deck of ‘facts’ to factor in; the EIE wants gloom to resonate with.

With some things is less about the what but more about why and what do they do with it.

Yeah I kind of agree. I would say most "wiccans" I've met over the years were some kind of alpha SF, with SEI being the most probable. It always strikes me as being "deep yet shallow" exploration of esoteric ness. Its like Ni without the Ni, ya know?

In other words, Ni as viewed through the use of Ne seeking.

[timber]

You accidentally posted this with your Sol account instead of your fake danish nifl account.

But I mean, SEI, right?

[timber]

Maybe this goes here

Look I get ILE, but I always thought ESE. And her movie data bank is alpha groups material.

[timber]

Voyevoda (Teddy Bar) [left] - mb ESFJ
some Fe

Sol, everyone makes Fe. It depends on what block its situated in. Every IE is accounted for in a person.

[Northstar]

But I mean, SEI, right?

Yeah, sure. I just don't get it why Sol/nifl goes on with this charade, but I've been of the opinion for a longer time that Sol is a mentally disturbed individual which isn't really a rarity on this forum.

[timber]

Yeah, sure. I just don't get it why Sol/nifl goes on with this charade, but I've been of the opinion for a longer time that Sol is a mentally disturbed individual which isn't really a rarity on this forum.

I don't know disturbed anymore than most of us, I think. I don't care for his attitudes towards gay people, and much of what he rails against, I do think he's obtuse. Is that a character flaw? Is that socionics? Is it both? Neither? I don't fuking know.

I've been flying back home for the past 12 hours. I'm feeling okay with people atm.

[Northstar]

I don't know disturbed anymore than most of us, I think. I don't care for his attitudes towards gay people, and much of what he rails against, I do think he's obtuse. Is that a character flaw? Is that socionics? Is it both? Neither? I don't fuking know.

I've been flying back home for the past 12 hours. I'm feeling okay with people atm.

I don't think it's socionics, it's just being weird. It's mostly harmless here online, but I'm a bit worried about his offline stalking habits.

Yeah, it's good to feel good about people and things. Enjoy the mood.

[nifl]

You accidentally posted this with your Sol account instead of your fake danish nifl account.

he probably watched one of the danish-language vids I posted in a thread, which made that come up in his recommended
sometimes a face on a thumbnail will catch your eye and you have some idea of that person's type, so you click on it to check (pretty women mostly create this impulse, in my case)

[Northstar]

he probably watched one of the danish-language vids I posted in a thread, which made that come up in his recommended
sometimes a face on a thumbnail will catch your eye and you have some idea of that person's type, so you click on it to check (pretty women mostly create this impulse, in my case)

You were a bit fast to come to your defense without even having been tagged. You're just making it worse than it was, lol. Sorry, your cover's blown, there's no point to this charade.

[Ikite iru]

why do people here share videos of danish or russian youtubers who do make-up or asmr or weird things with their face? what am I supposed to learn or analyze from that?

[Sol]

your fake danish nifl account

Thanks for nice example of LSI paranoid fantasies.

[Sol]

everyone makes Fe

I meant some Fe type. By a lot of emotionality from him (more than from average T), not much of thinking and the style closer to Fe than Fi type.
near him - ENTP

[Northstar]

Thanks for nice example of LSI paranoid fantasies.

Personal attacks to defend emotions instead of addressing logical case. F, mb Fe.

[timber]

I meant some Fe type. By a lot of emotionality from him (more than from average T), not much of thinking and the style closer to Fe than Fi type.
near him - ENTP

Fair enough. I watch him and just see a lower grade level of Fe. In other words, it doesn't stand out much.

Oh wow, the guy on his right vibes like Andrew Tate. ILE for Tate? Would not be a shocker, low Fi, evolution to beta values? Haha, role Se? Fits. His entire persona seems like some involved super-ego issues "Men SHOULD be this way" "Women ARE this way". I'm thinking some super ego reveals?

'should' 'are', ect, these are admonishing words of an internalized, external world of super ego "expectations".

[Sol]

the guy on his right vibes like Andrew Tate. ILE for Tate?

Among famouses who I related to ILE he reminded me Elon Musk.

In Andrew Tate's ILE I doubt. Looks not much intellectual for them.

[nifl]

Tate may be Ni, where Beta is more likely

[Ikite iru]

Andrew Tate is an autistic chess playing IEI

[nifl]

Julia Voth (on the left)
ILE

[Ikite iru]

Julia Voth (on the left)
ILE

Se valuing

[Sol]

Dimple Bhumi - ESFJ

Julia Voth - ENTP

[Rusal]

Yeah I kind of agree. I would say most "wiccans" I've met over the years were some kind of alpha SF, with SEI being the most probable. It always strikes me as being "deep yet shallow" exploration of esoteric ness. Its like Ni without the Ni, ya know?

In Alpha, an ‘air’ quadra, what's shallow is being caught up in continuous happenings of repeated nature i.e.: what makes a society at Earth level, Ni-Se. What can you absorb from the universe, from the perspective of serious practitioners, if you're whistling to a tune of the mundane? Alpha SFs are just inverted NTs.

And… it so happens that the practice of ‘the arts’ is dialectical-algorithmic in essence, something SEIs have in their favor. Even when they're not seriously into that world or constantly improving their techniques, SEI's type of cognition works in a way that predisposes them to slightly unusual experiences. If they haven't had any dreams for what seems weeks or months and something ‘shift’s in a way that they finally get one, sometimes all it takes for them to notice that the actually miss dreaming and that'll open the gates to days or weeks of dreams every night. If the dream seems precognitive and it shocks the SEIs, a signal is sent off to inaccessible parts of the brain to pay close attention and what appears to happen then is that they slow down time in the oneiric to appreciate better what is going on… the more they wonder at this the more time slows down (to stop the precognitive in the dreams to go unnoticed, to separate chaff from wheat). Even in harmless walks what SEIs do I think is self-hypnosis to welcome a new configuration of reality.




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Nick Stahl maybe alpha NT

[Sol]

Nick Stahl - INFP