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    Andrew Marr - ILE



    I can't remember if I came up with this typing or someone else did ...I can't find anything on the subject.

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    Jane Horrocks - SEI, possibly





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    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post
    Jane Horrocks - SEI, possibly


    I enjoyed that interview; I had not heard of her. I do not get SEI from her though; she lacks that certain softness and slight reserve I see in SEIs. Instead, she has a very direct way about her. Makes me think ENFj actually, possibly INFp. But I lean to ENFj. That comment about mimicking, how it just has to "come" to her; she cannot "make" it happen, makes me think she is very comfortable with her "N", so she is an N type... [I tend to type by a more holistic sense, from an overall impression based on things I notice intuitively, but that is one detail I can pick out at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliza Thomason View Post
    I enjoyed that interview; I had not heard of her. I do not get SEI from her though; she lacks that certain softness and slight reserve I see in SEIs. Instead, she has a very direct way about her. Makes me think ENFj actually, possibly INFp. But I lean to ENFj. That comment about mimicking, how it just has to "come" to her; she cannot "make" it happen, makes me think she is very comfortable with her "N", so she is an N type... [I tend to type by a more holistic sense, from an overall impression based on things I notice intuitively, but that is one detail I can pick out at this time.
    I had not watched that video until I read your comment today and got curious.

    She does not remind me of any of my IP friends. She does lack that reflective equality and softness.

    I could see her as ENFj. I agree about the directness. A few of her remarks were things that I could say about myself. The mimicking thing is one of them actually. And yes, it has to come to me, I can't manufacture it, and like her, I am VERY proud of myself when I am able to mimic someone. There are other similarities but I can't write about them because I have to go clean out the garage now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliza Thomason View Post
    I enjoyed that interview; I had not heard of her. I do not get SEI from her though; she lacks that certain softness and slight reserve I see in SEIs. Instead, she has a very direct way about her. Makes me think ENFj actually, possibly INFp. But I lean to ENFj. That comment about mimicking, how it just has to "come" to her; she cannot "make" it happen, makes me think she is very comfortable with her "N", so she is an N type... [I tend to type by a more holistic sense, from an overall impression based on things I notice intuitively, but that is one detail I can pick out at this time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iris View Post
    I had not watched that video until I read your comment today and got curious.

    She does not remind me of any of my IP friends. She does lack that reflective equality and softness.

    I could see her as ENFj. I agree about the directness. A few of her remarks were things that I could say about myself. The mimicking thing is one of them actually. And yes, it has to come to me, I can't manufacture it, and like her, I am VERY proud of myself when I am able to mimic someone. There are other similarities but I can't write about them because I have to go clean out the garage now.
    yes I can see EIE now that it has been mentioned

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    Mark Miodownik, material scientist who is often on the BBC - I think he might be ESE


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    I think Dave Matthews is SEI

    Important to note! People who share "indentical" socionics TIMs won't necessarily appear to be very similar, since they have have different backgrounds, experiences, capabilities, genetics, as well as different types in other typological systems (enneagram, instinctual variants, etc.) all of which also have a sway on compatibility and identification. Thus, Socionics type "identicals" won't necessarily be identical i.e. highly similar to each other, and not all people of "dual" types will seem interesting, attractive and appealing to each other.

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    Mariah Carey - Up Out My Face ft. Nicki Minaj
    ESE and SEI




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    LII-ESE duals?


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    Killua (LII, white-haired child) and Gon (ESE, black-haired child).

    I wouldn't say that these scenes are emblematic of ESE/LII dynamics (except 4:35 in the first video) but I can't find the scenes on YouTube that I want to find, so have these instead.
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    ESE:

    [url=https://flic.kr/p/qRCxiA]
    LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP



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    I thought Flo was IEE. mehbeh.

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    Conan O'Brien - ILE-Ti sp/so
    and Jordan Schlansky - LII-Ti so/sp
    Julie - LSE




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    Kevin Richardson - ILE-Ti
    opps, sorry, not the lion man, thanks @aisa for letting me know! i got confused by their names

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    Kevin Richardson - ILE-Ti
    opps, sorry, not the lion man, thanks @aisa for letting me know! i got confused by their names

    SLI
    ILE "Searcher"
    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

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    Ian Purkayastha, cool-guy truffle dealer
    SEI probs?

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    ILE-Ti & SEI-Fe russian dual couple - no happy ending here, his parents severely beat her up being against him proposing to her and starting a family
    (in russian - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4tZAY0-EmE)




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    SEI maybs

    M.I.A.


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    Also: Greta Gerwig (SEI)


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    ENTp ISFp duality (?) in a minimalist romantic drama aww
    With cute-guy-heartthrob Ethan Hawke being ENTp and the sweet-beautiful Julie Delpy being ISFp. From the Sunrise, Sunset, Midnight set of movies by Richard Linklater.

    The trailer for the first movie in the set:

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    Quote Originally Posted by May View Post
    ENTp ISFp duality (?) in a minimalist romantic drama aww
    With cute-guy-heartthrob Ethan Hawke being ENTp and the sweet-beautiful Julie Delpy being ISFp. From the Sunrise, Sunset, Midnight set of movies by Richard Linklater.

    The trailer for the first movie in the set:
    Been told by a girl I dated that our interactions reminded her a lot of this movie. Never have seen it though. Does seem like ENTp-ISFP duality.
    Suomea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suomea View Post
    Been told by a girl I dated that our interactions reminded her a lot of this movie. Never have seen it though. Does seem like ENTp-ISFP duality.
    Oh hm :) You should check out the movie if you feel like it. I thought it was pretty good.

    Got another alpha looking movie. Maybe featuring an ILE - ESE activity pair? With Steve Coogan (longer hair) being ILE and Rob Brydon being ESE.


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    hmm, none of these people give the impression of trustworthy. is that how ne manifests?

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    Can't get more alpha than this:

    LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP



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    Veronika Krasheninnikova - LII so/sx
    head of the Center for International Studies and Journalism









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    [Part 2]:



    Edward Frenkel: LII-Ne. Less relaxed than Ed Copeland, also more energetic. Denser speech. If not Ne sub, at least a differend kind of LII (like DCNH-H for Copeland and D for Frenkel).

    His way speaking is similar to my own.




    Zsuzsanna Dancso: Ne-sub Alpha NT. I would say ILE, although she does not seem confindent in front of the camera.

    (She's cute, by the way ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MensSuperMateriam View Post
    [Part 2]:



    Edward Frenkel: LII-Ne. Less relaxed than Ed Copeland, also more energetic. Denser speech. If not Ne sub, at least a differend kind of LII (like DCNH-H for Copeland and D for Frenkel).

    His way speaking is similar to my own.
    sexy totally not LII beta. (LSI or EIE)

    Quote Originally Posted by MensSuperMateriam View Post


    Zsuzsanna Dancso: Ne-sub Alpha NT. I would say ILE, although she does not seem confindent in front of the camera.

    (She's cute, by the way ).
    SEI.

    no opinion on Katie Steckes, and Holly Krieger is probably LSE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    sexy totally not LII beta. (LSI or EIE)
    I'm curious, why do you think so?

    My idea of an EIE mathematician is someone like Roger Penrose. I see cerain loose resemblance, but not enough for qualifying as the same type imo. For example, he seems a bit tense, rigid in a typical Ij fashion, and Fe is not strong enough.

    LSI could be, but I prefer the LII option. I do not see anything that points to Ne PoLR; the way he "plays" with concepts (while explaining things) remembers me of alpha NTs. In my experience, LSIs tend to be more direct in their speeches and explanations.


    [EDIT]
    After commenting this case with Aisa I think you are right. Probably EIE-Ni.
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    There are several examples of Alpha NTs in the interesting Youtube channel Numberphile. [Part 1]:




    Tony Padilla (younger physicist): ILE (-Ne?). Variable rythm and intonation in speech. Explosive enthusiam very ILE-like.
    Ed Copeland (older physicist): LII-Ti. More focused, and stable rythm and intonation. Calmed, less expressive. Better appreciated in the second video.




    James Grime: ILE-Ne. Very expressive, constantly moving his eyes and similing to the camera.




    Simon Singh: ILE-Ti. Less expressive than former ILEs, more focused in his own thoughts. Style reminds me of Lawrence Krauss, although a bit more serious.

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    [Part 3]:

    There are also some gammas in the channel, useful as contrast:



    Katie Steckes: ILI (Ni sub?). Anti-Fe style, aphatic, devoid of most energy and expressivity. Victim eyes.

    James Isenberg: unsure. More expressive than the former, maybe ILI-Te.




    Holly Krieger: LIE-Ni. Constant rythm, quick speech, energetic (Ej). "I will not waste my time" attitude. Dominant & confident expression, as expected by an E8 or E8 wing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MensSuperMateriam View Post
    [Part 3]:

    There are also some gammas in the channel, useful as contrast:



    Holly Krieger: LIE-Ni. Constant rythm, quick speech, energetic (Ej). "I will not waste my time" attitude. Dominant & confident expression, as expected by an E8 or E8 wing.
    [strike]She is the right club ExTx, as LIE. Not quite though. I think she is a delta ST, most likely an ESTj and of that of Si subtype.
    Edit: possibly even INFj, she kind of jives like Gwyneth Paltrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    [strike]She is the right club ExTx, as LIE. Not quite though. I think she is a delta ST, most likely an ESTj and of that of Si subtype.
    Edit: possibly even INFj, she kind of jives like Gwyneth Paltrow.
    ESTj is definitely an option, although I do not see anything that specifically points to that instead LIE. I think the idea of ENTjs here orbits too much around a heavy Ni subt (or even ILI-Te), as there are very few examples of Te subtypes. Probably I should have chosen Te-sub for her, though.

    INFj is very unlikely imo.

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    Hey, I think Josh Groban might be an SEI Fe subtype, what do you think ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W74REJjWH8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SyqAbCitgE

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    This chick - Ne-ILE

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    John Nash, LII-Ti.

    51655X7XM4L.jpg

    Passed away in a car accident.


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    this guy seems SEI-Si (Sasha Issenberg)


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    at point i typed most of the Numberphile (plus Sixty Symbols) roster so here it is one more time minus guest appearances:


    James Grime - LII


    Ria Symonds - ESE?


    Roger Bowley - some Ne/Si type not sure


    Matt Parker - LSE


    Holly Krieger - probably LSE


    Edward Frenkel - beta rational


    Laurence Eaves - LSI


    Phil Moriarty - ILE


    John Hunton - SLI


    Meghan Grey - LII


    Alex Bellos - ILE? SLE? one of these two


    Steve Mould - EII

    Antonio 'Tony' Padilla, Ed Copeland and Dr James Clewett are all probably Alpha dunno which ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    at point i typed most of the Numberphile (plus Sixty Symbols) roster so here it is one more time minus guest appearances:


    James Grime - LII
    It's possible, although he has too much Ne & Fe, and seems a bit directionless (disperse). I prefer ILE, but LII is a good option.

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    BJ Novak - LII ?

    Ij temperament, xNTx club. Seems democratic and childlike as well. :)

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