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    Sicuramente cercherai il significato di questo.

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    B.J. Novak - ILx, so maybe

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    B.J. Novak - ENFJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    B.J. Novak - ENFJ
    he reminds me a little of Woody Harrelson, who for me may be EIE. but also a little of Benedict Cumberbatch, who I'm not sure what is

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    Quote Originally Posted by nifl View Post
    he reminds me a little of Woody Harrelson, who for me may be EIE. but also a little of Benedict Cumberbatch, who I'm not sure what is
    Woody Harrelson - N, E
    Benedict Cumberbatch - T, mb INTJ
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    Ni base, probably IEI. I'm the kind of person that just goes along and eats the chips, but I won't show up another time. I'm just not the kind of person to fight a majority or have a strong opinion on anything, as I don't value Se.
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    I think people really need to get away from this idea that LII is a type that creates a youtube channel to talk about his or her philosophy. It's simply not what I care about. My type has Se as weakest function, so why would I want to influence anythinh? I have Fi as role and weak Fe, so why would I be interested in influencing others? Even a misanthrop like the guy in the youtube video will share his worldview so he can relate to others. The thing I really care about his understanding topics of interest. I share my opinion after studying something for a longer while and you either believe it or not, it's none of my business. The only real LII in the public sphere is Angela Merkel and she has very strict rules for interviews otherwise she will not do them. Her husband is also an LII and a physicist and does not give interviews at all. You probably don't even know who he is. The idea that my type films himself to ramble about the world is just foreign to me, it makes me think the person posting that doesn't understand my type at all
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    I think people really need to get away from this idea that LII is a type that creates a youtube channel to talk about his or her philosophy. It's simply not what I care about.
    You preach day and night that everyone here is an IEI and when they say they don't identify with some of your IEIs celebrities you say that just because they wouldn't do it it doesn't mean some other subtype of INFp won't. Well, there you go.
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    Sincerely ASMR - ISFP

    Angela Merkel - ENFJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusal View Post
    You preach day and night that everyone here is an IEI and when they say they don't identify with some of your IEIs celebrities you say that just because they wouldn't do it it doesn't mean some other subtype of INFp won't. Well, there you go.
    who says they don't identify with a celebrity? what are you talking about? I just claim that people can have the same type and still be extremly different, which is a much more sensible approach than people associating minor character traits with representatives of a single type. People can do whatever they want, but I think I make more sense than sol who fucking types Angela Merkel as ENFJ, and seems to spend most of his time wanking to random ASMR channels.
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    It is unbelievable but he sounds just like an Aussie version of Alive. Who has a one person income family consisting of kids and Chinese wife that he supports with his part time jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr provocateur View Post
    It is unbelievable but he sounds just like an Aussie version of Alive. Who has a one person income family consisting of kids and Chinese wife that he supports with his part time jobs.
    https://youtu.be/nXq3iNpYBLE?list=PL...zxVLDPH9toVZx2
    I'm just some guy studying a specific topic in-depth. I don't need to put an entire identity on myself and tell others how "I am an outcast" and then show concrete definition of that word like in some kind of dictionary. how does that sound like me at all? I got bored after a minute. this is exactly the kind of detail-thinking I talk about when I mention Ni. gotta give the correct definition of things so there's no vagueness... and why would I ever share my life history of a partner or my income with the world? geez

    but I mean you still probably think you are an extrovert so whatever.
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    but I mean you still probably think you are an extrovert so whatever.
    Actually, I have come to a conclusion that I do not exist. So I'm nothing else than a visual hallucination of yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr provocateur View Post
    Actually, I have come to a conclusion that I do not exist. So I'm nothing else than a visual hallucination of yours.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W6HhdqA95w
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    I stole this ILE specimen from @mr provocateur's laboratory ( sorry ) just to illustrate a point or two.

    a) Socionics does not emphasize enough the terms " Extreme curiosity " when it comes to Ne lead.

    b) Observe how Te manifest in ILE. It comes with non standard solutions to satisfy the natural curiosity of Ne. Indeed it's Ne here which transfers energy to Te : "In order to ... [satisfy Ne], I had to.... [creatively use Te]". Gathering information if need be and apply their knowledge right away, experimenting and sometimes inventing new procedures and even new technologies (progress) as they go. So we can see here how the creative (Model G)/ demonstrative works, it's less a matter of valuing or not valuing a function than a matter of objective achievement easily and efficiently done without even thinking about it.

    LII for instance don't do that at all, they don't have the "energy" to Te like ILE and prefer to use Ni (if need be) to come up with solutions and satisfy Ti .


    P.S. It would be great if the experts on Jung types in particular and socionics in general could leave just a few words of explanation instead of just leaving the type code name under a video example. It would be easier for people to learn and understand types if the socionics experts of this forum show them what is important to look for as significant marks of differentiation. Otherwise people esp newbies would have to try to come up with the rationale behind the typing on their own (sometimes that only can be challenging !) or... use the force .
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    NileRed - mb INTP

    may nonverbal force be with you

    Kids and chemistry match not good.
    We had a glass tube, deep inside of which was stucked rubber plug, so it was impossibly to remove it. The idea was to heat the tube on fire so it became wider and then a plug mb will fall away. We did and the rubber plug inside started to smoke. By this way also to reduce the size of the plug we liked too.
    But... All those science games happened in a room. The smell of burned rubber stayed there for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusal View Post


    In Alpha, an ‘air’ quadra, what's shallow is being caught up in continuous happenings of repeated nature i.e.: what makes a society at Earth level, Ni-Se. What can you absorb from the universe, from the perspective of serious practitioners, if you're whistling to a tune of the mundane? Alpha SFs are just inverted NTs.

    And… it so happens that the practice of ‘the arts’ is dialectical-algorithmic in essence, something SEIs have in their favor. Even when they're not seriously into that world or constantly improving their techniques, SEI's type of cognition works in a way that predisposes them to slightly unusual experiences. If they haven't had any dreams for what seems weeks or months and something ‘shift’s in a way that they finally get one, sometimes all it takes for them to notice that the actually miss dreaming and that'll open the gates to days or weeks of dreams every night. If the dream seems precognitive and it shocks the SEIs, a signal is sent off to inaccessible parts of the brain to pay close attention and what appears to happen then is that they slow down time in the oneiric to appreciate better what is going on… the more they wonder at this the more time slows down (to stop the precognitive in the dreams to go unnoticed, to separate chaff from wheat). Even in harmless walks what SEIs do I think is self-hypnosis to welcome a new configuration of reality.




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    Cool and interesting perspective. I'm sorry I never said so earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post

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    You think she is my identical? lol, "barking up the wrong tree", as we say in Canada.

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    Diana Shablinskaya - ISFP

    Quote Originally Posted by timber View Post
    You think she is my identical?
    No, think as possible. Prefer to have a video for assurance.

    I'm assured in your F. The main suspicion is for SEI, then beta F.

    > "barking up the wrong tree"

    As you don't distinguish talking with swearing and people with dogs, I suppose our further talking as lesser interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by godslave View Post
    a) Socionics does not emphasize enough the terms " Extreme curiosity " when it comes to Ne lead.

    b) Observe how Te manifest in ILE. It comes with non standard solutions to satisfy the natural curiosity of Ne. Indeed it's Ne here which transfers energy to Te : "In order to ... [satisfy Ne], I had to.... [creatively use Te]". Gathering information if need be and apply their knowledge right away, experimenting and sometimes inventing new procedures and even new technologies (progress) as they go. So we can see here how the creative (Model G)/ demonstrative works, it's less a matter of valuing or not valuing a function than a matter of objective achievement easily and efficiently done without even thinking about it.

    LII for instance don't do that at all, they don't have the "energy" to Te like ILE and prefer to use Ni (if need be) to come up with solutions and satisfy Ti .


    P.S. It would be great if the experts on Jung types in particular and socionics in general could leave just a few words of explanation instead of just leaving the type code name under a video example. It would be easier for people to learn and understand types if the socionics experts of this forum show them what is important to look for as significant marks of differentiation. Otherwise people esp newbies would have to try to come up with the rationale behind the typing on their own (sometimes that only can be challenging !) or... use the force .
    Id say this video seals the deal.

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    PunkMonk - ENTP

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    glad to see this kid got millions of views lol

    I think I saw this video a very long time ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr provocateur View Post
    Adam Conover ILE

    Started as an ADD smart ass kid who has developed his super ego side (SEE)
    Going to change my mind. He seems to be ESE-D unicorn. Lots of union stuff going on.


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    Nick Haddad- LII. A butterfly expert.
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    xkcdHatGuy - reminds INTP. seems he has autism, so easier to mistake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    xkcdHatGuy - reminds INTP. seems he has autism, so easier to mistake
    https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/xkcdhatguy
    xkcdHatGuy, also known as HatGuy or thexkcdHatGuy, is a YouTuber most known for his 2010 viral video called "4th Dimension Explained By a High-School Student" in which he described the complex, scientific theory despite being a high schooler. Starting in 2013, xkcdHatGuy's YouTube channel went dormant, leading to mass speculation over whether he was missing or dead. In 2019, he fully returned to YouTube on a new channel, stating that he had forgotten his YouTube password and also struggled with autism and schizoaffective disorder. Additionally, his channel's name is a reference to the webcomic xkcd.
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    Selfdiving [on right] - mb ENTP


    Andrey Rudoy [16:26] - ENTP
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    Liz Fenwick DIY - ESFJ

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    Zack the Russian - LII



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