Examples of Socionics Alpha types

[Rusal]

ILE-Ne

[Still Alive]

None of the people on this page seem alpha to me. That guy in india seems more LIE, the make-up girl IEI

[nifl]

the make-up girl IEI

seems irrational and intuitive, so maybe
not excluding a logician

[may]

ile : )

[The Reality Denialist]

LII wrote this

[The Reality Denialist]

Sabine Hossenfelder LII

[timber]

Sabine Hossenfelder LII

Yeah I agree. For a time I thought she was a Ti sub type LSI, but Northstar pointed out LII which ultimately made more sense. Its not really casual determinist thinking we are seeing in Sabine, but holographic. "As Statics, Holographers attain reliable precision of thought. As Negativists they periodically turn the object of thought to its opposite side. As Involutionary types, they sporadically change the angle of examination or criterion of judgment."

[Socionics Is A Cult]

Sabine Hossenfelder LII

On the https://www.16personalities.com/ test (heavily influenced by the Big Five), she got:

97% introverted (extremely strong) 76% intuitive 59% thinking 79% judging 68% turbulent

[Sol]

Nichole Lauren - ISFP

97% introverted (extremely strong) 76% intuitive 59% thinking 79% judging

The least is T for possible by the test base T.
Introvertion is abnormally high to suspect additional (not from Jung type) trait with similar behavior. In case of unusual trait it may also overwheight Jung trait. For example, may exist psychiatry problem.

[The Reality Denialist]

Dr. Mike ESE

[nifl]

Dr. Mike ESE

Intuitive, maybe irrational
Possibly IEE, IEI
or even EIE

[Still Alive]

Sabine Hossenfelder has the same smile as Douglas Hofstadter, who I would type as IEI

https://soziotypen.de/wp-content/upl...Hofstadter.png

[timber]

Sabine Hossenfelder has the same smile as Douglas Hofstadter, who I would type as IEI

https://soziotypen.de/wp-content/upl...Hofstadter.png

ugh just go home, call it a night.

[Still Alive]

ugh just go home, call it a night.

>Talks about perception of time
>somehow Ti base instead of Ni base

Sure





IEI-N

[timber]

>Talks about perception of time
>somehow Ti base instead of Ni base

Sure





IEI-N

As a physicist one would be very interested in the concept of time, as through the lens of Ti. Plus that candle video is extremely Fe cringe. Some kind of INTj humour. This flat affect is Fe?

I'm not sure you understand Ni at all.

[Still Alive]

As a physicist one would be very interested in the concept of time, as through the lens of Ti.

ever considered that physics is Ni? and that most physicists are Ni base types? but what do I know.

[Rusal]

I'm not sure you understand Ni at all.

And he has suspicious ideas about Se.

[Still Alive]

I really think many people here do not understand Alpha NT at all, but it might be because we simply are not interested in the spotlight or presenting ourselves. Might be a lack of actual famous examples to study from. If people really think that LII make music videos while studying physics and write books with a butterfly front cover, they really haven't understood this type (or irrationality).



totally an unemotional logical type and not a person who wants to express her emotions in an artistic way Ni + Fe

[timber]

I really think many people here do not understand Alpha NT at all, but it might be because we simply are not interested in the spotlight or presenting ourselves. Might be a lack of actual famous examples to study from. If people really think that LII make music videos while studying physics and write books with a butterfly front cover, they really haven't understood this type (or irrationality) at all.



totally an unemotional logical type and not a person who wants to express her emotions in an artistic way Ni + Fe

Dual baiting. Pretty standard. Well known phenomena and I'm surprised you are not familiar with it yet.

And I'm sorry but what emotions are coming through this video? LMAO. Its like some kind of autistic interpretation of "feelings".

Irrationality in socionics is about energy metabolism. Actually I'm done discussing this with you, bud. You think you are right (you are not), and this is just going to go in circles. Sabine LII- Ne sub

[Still Alive]

Alive has an extreme blindness to see Fe.

I do not understand you at all. on one hand according to you I am an IEI, and now I am blind to Fe?

Dual baiting. Pretty standard. Well known phenomena and I'm surprised you are not familiar with it yet.

And I'm sorry but what emotions are coming through this video? LMAO. Its like some kind of autistic interpretation of "feelings".

Irrationality in socionics is about energy metabolism. Actually I'm done discussing this with you, bud. You think you are right (you are not), and this is just going to go in circles. Sabine LII- Ne sub

you didn't even aim to have a discussion, bud. all you wrote was "oh Alive, you and your stupid IEI typings", then I responded and all you had to say was "I'm right, you are wrong, I win".

I can see that she is completely unexpressive, I am not blind. she looks like a researcher, in her videos she has the same neutral look. from that perspective, you could say she is a logical type. the point that makes her an ethical type is not how expressive she is in her videos, but that she even makes videos in which she sings to an audience at all. she clearly has a strong desire to express herself to her viewers. for me as a logical type, the concept of singing Ave Maria in an Angel costume to nearly 40000 viewers seems so abstract that I wonder if people here understand how logical types operate and that they have no desire to do such a thing at all. Logical Types are internally lifeless, they desperately need ethical types like Hossenfelder to bring that life into them. she is likely a gifted and somewhat autistic Ni dom who lives entirely in an imaginative world which makes her appear unemotional externally. showing bright emotions is also in my opinion somewhat related to confifdence which she might not have all that much of.

[The Reality Denialist]

I do not understand you at all. on one hand according to you I am an IEI, and now I am blind to Fe?

Update you sarcasm detector and look at this.

[Still Alive]

Update you sarcasm detector and look at this.

you don't know what you are doing when it comes to typing and you have nothing interesting to say. I really dislike you. it's really true, your life is a joke.

[timber]

[The Reality Denialist]

Alive has an extreme blindness to see Fe.

[Still Alive]

I don't even understand how it's so controversial that I type a woman who is making music videos in an angel costume while studying the concept of time as an IEI, with Intuition of Time as base function. I do not grasp the discussions that I have here. it's like you guys are oblivious to the most obvious things and mad about it and tell me I don't understand Ni. like what do you mean?

[Rusal]

SEI

[nifl]

SEI

more like a Se ego, but seems more Fe valuing, perhaps
not excluding LSI, from looking at the other videos

[Rusal]

more like a Se ego, but seems more Fe valuing, perhaps
not excluding LSI, from looking at the other videos

Si more than Se and ethical (resting face without any make-up is quite telling to me). But there's only so much we can know from this vids.

[nifl]

Si more than Se

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C79S4JRFBXY&t

No, her gaze is tough, cold - unpleasant for Delta

LSI most likely
seems introvert, but SLE is second most likely
ESI is excluded, definitely, and SEI, SEE are highly unlikely

[Renna]

No, her gaze is tough, cold - unpleasant for Delta

LSI most likely
seems introvert, but SLE is second most likely
ESI is excluded, definitely, and SEI, SEE are highly unlikely

I don't know about her in anyway, but by all of my Gamma NT instinct, she is Alpha SF. Omg this uneasy and annoying feeling come out of know where, no logical reason behind it.

[Still Alive]

SEI

I find this girl very disgusting. No way she's an alpha SF. Don't understand what people like about this garbage. I find noises that people make while eating something very unpleasant.

[The Reality Denialist]

SEI

Umm.. hits right between SEI and ESE.

But why SEI > ESE?

[Rusal]

Umm.. hits right between SEI and ESE.

But why SEI > ESE?

Girls like her tend to score introvert in more popular MBTI tests and they're not 'enthusiatically caretaking' as are ESEs.

[nifl]

probably ILE

[Rusal]

Her eyes are not the look of Se creative more like the Si calm 'void' in SEIs (not found in SLIs so far). But how much experience can you transfer through words in a post really?

[nifl]

Her eyes are not the look of Se creative more like the Si calm 'void' in SEIs (not found in SLIs so far). But how much experience can you transfer through words in a post really?

If what you see as Si in SEI is not something you see in SLI - then your identification of at least one of the types is obviously problematic.
She seems most like LSI, in my opinion. Without knowing your own type this is much harder to understand, as you cannot effectively use the IR to determine it. For example, if your true type is EIE, but you believe yourself to be ILE, then the positive and sympathetic feeling you more often than with other types get to LSI in IR will be more likely to be attributed to a SEI by you. The mistakes will be somewhat consistent, like your almost consistent typings of Fe valuers as IEE.

Try to read the basic theory, to understand your type by confidently assessing the relations to you of people you know. Then VI will be much easier. You seem like an ethical type, at least. Maybe intuitive.

[Rusal]

If what you see as Si in SEI is not something you see in SLI - then your identification of at least one of the types is obviously problematic

Type looks change from quadra to quadra and enhanced elements. What I see in Hunnibee I don't see in Andrey Tarkovsky, typed SLI by Gulenko nor in the SLI-Te I'm currently dealing with.

She seems most like LSI, in my opinion.

Her typing as SEI is rather noncontroversial IMO. Unfortunately we can't see her in other environments to get more information. I don't share your opinion that her gaze looks unpleasant in the way Beta ST eyes must look unpleasant to Deltas. John Travolta's eyes don't look like hers, they're rather warm yet his movements in those comedies (when acting) from the 90s indicate SLE.

[nifl]

@Rusal
Ego functions especially, but also dichotomies will give resemblances in types. Mirror, kindred and look-a-like appear the most similar in their expression. ''Enhanced elements'' is just the individual and their enormous amount of non-type personality elements, inborn and learned.
Tarkovsky is not SLI.

>I don't share your opinion that her gaze looks unpleasant in the way Beta ST eyes must look unpleasant to Deltas.
You're less likely to be Delta, then. She does not have a comfortable look.

>John Travolta's eyes don't look like hers, they're rather warm yet his movements in those comedies (when acting) from the 90s indicate SLE.
Probably SLE, yes. He appears less cold (he's an extravert, so he's more open), but warm? Not really - but moreso than the average SLE, I'll say. If you see him as ''warm'', then consider IEI, EIE.

[Rusal]

@blaecaedre I will trust Gulenko over you for the same reason I tend to do: his typings match my perceptions. SLE-C's eyes the warmest (when in a good mood). My type has already been decided. I just don't post it. But I can tell you I have low perception of activity-dualization with Hunnibee hence: not LSI. And since it can't be true that I think Travolta's eyes are warm because of positive ITR according to you then the disconnect I perceive from HunniBee cannot indicate mine would her would be a rewarding one...no?

[nifl]

But I can tell you I have low perception of activity-dualization with Hunnibee hence: not LSI. And since it can't be true that I think Travolta's eyes are warm because of positive ITR according to you then the disconnect I perceive from HunniBee cannot indicate mine would her would be a rewarding one...no?

Liking SLE but disliking LSI - possible for SEI, ILI. As there's no video of you, I'm not confident in any.

>it can't be true that I think Travolta's eyes are warm because of positive ITR according to you
It can. People usually like their preferred first dichotomy more, and ethical types may see their preferred logic as ''warm'' in their own weird way. It's usually associated with ethics, though.