The Delta Music Thread

[Simon Ssmall]

Not sure how much of this song is Delta if at all but it's something I like.

Little Dragon - Constant Surprises

[Smilingeyes]

Most of this thread is filled by delta irrationals. It's actually a bit difficult for me to find examples of ESTjish music. The concept itself is a vaguely paradoxical.
I'm not sure each of the following is quite it, but somewhere in the midst of it all, there's a grain of truth.


Tangerine Dream - Ricochet 1/2


Daft Punk- Around The World


The KLF - Justified And Ancient


Gil Evans Orchestra


Ella Fitzgerald : One note Samba (scat singing) 1969


Rammstein - Seemann


Heinz Ketchup jingle commercial!

[consentingadult]

Sarah McLachlan - Ice Cream



ETA: is that video something from The X-Files? I've never liked that actually...

[Lobo]

Heinz Ketchup jingle commercial!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l9-B4uq0zY

hahaha, wow, that was random. I think ESTjs prefer music that are less lyrical, and upbeat, such as dance music or instrumental.

[Smilingeyes]

hahaha, wow, that was random. I think ESTjs prefer music that are less lyrical, and upbeat, such as dance music or instrumental.

To be honest about the selection, Ella Fitzgerald is more probably an INFj and the insipid jingle is really more of an ENTj thing, but I tried to run the gamut of experience that being ESTj is about, and that is the extreme border of it, a bit like the KLF communicates something about EJ Si. Less lyrical seems correct. I'd say that being ESTj is not an upbeat thing quite the opposite, but it's also not about wallowing in depression, more of a determined seriousness, communicating the underlying emotional state through hiding it, but acting according to it. I'm not making a statement that Sinead O'Connor is ESTj, but the way she sings communicates something about being ESTj. A passion without passion if you get my drift. Eric Clapton communicates most of these things very well. Of course blues as a musical style is quite representative as a whole, now that I think of it. The background of work-songs, ancient tribal rhytms, quite ESTj territory really.

The following is a description of an enneagram stacking on the forum:
"These people often have an earthy, mysterious quality to them. They are quietly intense, but to others may seem oblivious to the greater social world around them, instead favoring personal interests. They are slow to commit, but once they do it is with an attitude of life commitment, to the establishment of an impermeable bond. Others can be taken aback by how suddenly and completely this type can lock into them, and by the depth of understanding of the other's condition. They attach to others at an organic, root level, in contrast to the other subvariant's surface formality. Somewhat hesitant to enter new relationships, they instead preserve the select few enduring bonds they carefully form along the way. The sanctuary of home is of paramount concern, and this type takes particular delight in decorating their spaces to reflect their cherished sense of taste and depth. Depth and discrimination characterize this stacking."

This could easily be just called a description of an ESTj, though it may describe other types as well. Anyway, Clapton is a thinking, quietly determined musician with skill but a mountain of personal failures.

But somehow, in the middle of that seriousness, there has to be an element of playfulness of some kind. Rammstein shows it in the puns of the lyrics, other bands show it more directly, in the music. Also there has to be a mixture of experimentation and the tried and true, the solid. A lack of a direct message would also be preferrable. The musician is just the performer. Also an element of repetitiveness, variations of a single melody, would be preferrable, instead of a long continuous development throughout a song.

Grieg's 'In the hall of the mountain King' has many of these elements. Grieg himself meant the song as a kind of parody. But I'm not quite sure in what exact way. This could be understood many ways.

Nothing else to say right now.

[Trevor]

My ESTj father loves these songs:

[Smilingeyes]

@tuturututu,
Excellent songs, I like your father's taste.

@greeter: thanks, the knife was great

@sereno: uhh, I don't feel particularly good about most of those songs. Beastie boys is nice and fun though.

This is a good thread. Thank you everyone, good choices and wonderful music mostly.

[tereg]

The house-ish songs on this page are reminding me of some of my all-time trance favorites

Alex Bartlett feat. Anthya - Touch The Sun (Duende Vocal Remix)


Ilse DeLange - The Great Escape (Armin van Buuren Remix)



Mike Shiver feat. Elevation - Hurricane



Matt Hardwick vs. Smith & Pledger - Connected (Original Mix)

[The Greeter]

@tuturututu,

@greeter: thanks, the knife was great

Glad you liked it.

This is a good thread. Thank you everyone, good choices and wonderful music mostly.

Likewise.

[The Greeter]

hahaha, wow, that was random. I think ESTjs prefer music that are less lyrical, and upbeat, such as dance music or instrumental.

Does not have to necessarily be upbeat, but I happen to enjoy this kind of music a lot. But my tastes are fairly diverse. If it is pleasing to the ears, I like it.

On the sidenote, "Tangerine Dream - Ricochet 1/2" sounds like something The Knife would make though the former is a bit more 'busy':

The Knife - Silent Shout


I heard this in House and liked it a lot:
Matthew Ryan - Follow the Leader

[Lobo]

To be honest about the selection, Ella Fitzgerald is more probably an INFj and the insipid jingle is really more of an ENTj thing, but I tried to run the gamut of experience that being ESTj is about, and that is the extreme border of it, a bit like the KLF communicates something about EJ Si. Less lyrical seems correct. I'd say that being ESTj is not an upbeat thing quite the opposite, but it's also not about wallowing in depression, more of a determined seriousness, communicating the underlying emotional state through hiding it, but acting according to it. I'm not making a statement that Sinead O'Connor is ESTj, but the way she sings communicates something about being ESTj. A passion without passion if you get my drift. Eric Clapton communicates most of these things very well. Of course blues as a musical style is quite representative as a whole, now that I think of it. The background of work-songs, ancient tribal rhytms, quite ESTj territory really.

The following is a description of an enneagram stacking on the forum:
"These people often have an earthy, mysterious quality to them. They are quietly intense, but to others may seem oblivious to the greater social world around them, instead favoring personal interests. They are slow to commit, but once they do it is with an attitude of life commitment, to the establishment of an impermeable bond. Others can be taken aback by how suddenly and completely this type can lock into them, and by the depth of understanding of the other's condition. They attach to others at an organic, root level, in contrast to the other subvariant's surface formality. Somewhat hesitant to enter new relationships, they instead preserve the select few enduring bonds they carefully form along the way. The sanctuary of home is of paramount concern, and this type takes particular delight in decorating their spaces to reflect their cherished sense of taste and depth. Depth and discrimination characterize this stacking."

This could easily be just called a description of an ESTj, though it may describe other types as well. Anyway, Clapton is a thinking, quietly determined musician with skill but a mountain of personal failures.

But somehow, in the middle of that seriousness, there has to be an element of playfulness of some kind. Rammstein shows it in the puns of the lyrics, other bands show it more directly, in the music. Also there has to be a mixture of experimentation and the tried and true, the solid. A lack of a direct message would also be preferrable. The musician is just the performer. Also an element of repetitiveness, variations of a single melody, would be preferrable, instead of a long continuous development throughout a song.

Grieg's 'In the hall of the mountain King' has many of these elements. Grieg himself meant the song as a kind of parody. But I'm not quite sure in what exact way. This could be understood many ways.

Nothing else to say right now.

Hmmm. How about this?

Hurt:

Deftones - Change (In the House of Flies)



Frustration:

Nonpoint - Bullet with a Name



I'm not sure about this one:

Movement - LCD Soundsystem


Maybe this is too much thinking about feelings:

Homesick - The Vines


Humorous?:

Beastie Boys - Body Movin'

[tereg]

Little People - Moon




I heard this song for the first time today. I almost cried listening to this song. Just... mm... something about this music.

Whoever did this video did a great job, I think. The song is a bit longer than the video, but you get the point I think.

Powerful stuff.

[Linalee]

The Do - On my shoulders

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=9bBkEQYdMM8

[Ms. Kensington]

Most of this thread is filled by delta irrationals. It's actually a bit difficult for me to find examples of ESTjish music. The concept itself is a vaguely paradoxical.
I'm not sure each of the following is quite it, but somewhere in the midst of it all, there's a grain of truth.


Tangerine Dream - Ricochet 1/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_QXc5duq-4

Daft Punk- Around The World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWMM8EmMZ-E

The KLF - Justified And Ancient
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8TLxa9Icc8

Gil Evans Orchestra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO4YS8nVBvE

Ella Fitzgerald : One note Samba (scat singing) 1969
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbL9vr4Q2LU

Rammstein - Seemann
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j2m0BbLpWc

Heinz Ketchup jingle commercial!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l9-B4uq0zY

lmao. your post is ESTj.

[Chocolate]

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=2lk4EUzsC-g
Mira (ISTp) from Ladytron singing 'Black Cat' + a lot of pictures of her.
The way she changes - from being calm and not smiling at all to being somewhat cheerful and doing funny things that no one have never expected she can - is truly amazing.

[Linalee]

Jeff Buckley - Lilac Wine
(had an IxTP friend who liked it a lot)

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=5akAxHJO5Tg

Fiona Apple - Sleep to Dream
could be a song for ESTJ ?? i would sing it myself but... i don't have my feet on the ground

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=stuyVj8IOPg

Jacques Brel - Quand on n'a que l'amour
Very idealistic and hopeful lyrics. On this video, there is a translation... which doesn't make justice to the real version, but anyway.

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=cN5iaxa93rQ

When we have only love
To offer as a share
On the day of the great voyage
Which is our Great Love

when we have only love
My love, you and I
For joy to burst out
In every hour and every day

when we have only love
to live out our promises
with no other wealth
Than our never ending hope

when we have only hope
to furnish with marvellous things
and to cover with sunlight
the ugly suburbs

when we have only love
as only reason,
only song,
and only help

when we have only love
to clothe bold men,
poor people and ruffians
in velvet coats

when we have only love
to offer as a prayer
for the suffering of the earth
like a simple troubadour.

when we have only love
to offer to those very ones
whose only fight
is to look for the light

when we have only love
to trace out a path
and compel fate
at each crossroad

when we have only love
to speak to canons
and nothing but a song
to persuade a war drum

Then with nothing
but the strength of love
we shall hold in our hands,
friends,
the whole world.

(slightly different from the one on the video which i find very litteral. I've looked for the accurate translation of "Quand" but found nothing and let "When". It's not the right word but... grumpf)

loved the songs you have posted, especially Regina Spektor, Royksopp and Ladytron. I had the Sinead O'Connor song already in my computer. And yes, she wanted to be ordered as a priest, it's been a loud, long and stormy argument with the Vatican.

[Smilingeyes]

@Linalee

Many points to you and thanks for bringing Fiona Apple to my attention. Hadn't seen her videos before, had sort of ignored her. There's something there. Interesting sound.

[Linalee]

There's something there

What's there ?
I've read some of your posts, you're a LSE, right ? As an EII, I'm interested in your point of view. LSEs are a real enigma to me.