If men are supposed to initiate any relationship, I guess I'm damned. When it comes to matters like that, if I'm involved, it screws up my "feeling radar" completely. No way to know whether a girl is interested or ust playing a cruel joke. Or even not interested, just me imagining things. I'd never actually take the first step. If I envision such a situation, with me taking the first step, I usually imagine the girl getting offended, creeped out or seeing it as "leverage" to make me do her wish. She would have to take the first step, and explicitly, before I would ever dare taking part in any relationship. This is part of my "shell", and it has to be broken through before I can feel comfortable. I wouldn't have any wish of control over where it was all going. In fact, I'd be overjoyed if she took the responsibility. I'd feel that I lucked out, I found somebody who actually wants to take care of it.