Hm...
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/sigh/ I want to get my bb typed ;~;
If Jim Parsons is ILE... RiRi is SEI Chemistry is off the charts. Jim makes up for her lack of Te (using Ti: "That's not logical" - "Yeah"). Rihanna for his lacking Fi ("everyone else can piss off") adding Fe: "That's really mean... but, you're so great at acting!" - "You're really sweet" - "See how I changed that?". I think that works! The ice cream stuff, shoes, diabetes, whistling ... that's more Si of her than anything, at least in this one. What do y'all think?
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On Jim Parsons, I've always thought of him as ILI for some reason even though it does seem like his Fe is pretty good... I'll have him as ILx. Rihanna has always had a really gamma SF vibe for me. I've always put her at ESI. The two do have good chemistry throughout these few mins but they do kind of talk over each other a bit at the very end. Hmm, I don't know them that well so it's hard for me to say. I just watched another interview of the two of them together, and I could see them as ILE and SEI.
ESI af
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Rihanna is MOST DEFINITELY Sx/sp.
I also think she is ISFj.
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She ain't no goddamned SEI. Visually, she's quite clearly an ESI > cold, impassive Fi mug with smoldering Se intensity in the eyes. As evidenced throughout the videos in this thread, whenever ESIs attempt disingenuous, "put on" Fe smiles, it looks forced, in part, because they half-ass it with the mouth and don't sell it in the eyes. They won't radiate believable warmth unless they authentically feel inclined to. Moreover, her persona is rooted in the notion of "badgirlriri," someone unapologetic (and viscerally impactful Se-style) about who she is, what she does, what she wants, and has subzero fucks to give about pleasing those outside of her Fi "heart."
Tangentially, as my dual, what makes ESIs ridiculously intriguing/attractive to me is the fact that their internal states aren't readily decipherable and so they come off rather mysterious and elusive, which ignites my instinct to chase and figure them out (but the catch is that, at some point, I'll become the hunted/prey once they're interested lol). Riri seems like she has a world (of feeling) behind those eyes and not everyone is entitled to know what they are--you have to deserve it, and earn it. That's sexy, to me. On the other hand, SEIs (God love 'em), on average, I feel the urge to hurl them into the sun (i.e., Kim Kardashian). Don't want it. Can find them to be attractive, but don't. want. it. Even the "feisty" ones still come off as docile, preternaturally complacent and compliant (read: doormats), to me. After Riri initially stayed with Chris Brown after the "incident," I didn't see her as a helpless "trapped woman," but as someone just doing whatever the fuck she wanted, everyone else and their opinions be damned. Cognitive biases are real. lol
IEI-Fe 4w3 sp/sx
Definitely some type of ethical-type gamma. Likes bad boys, which is a stereotype of all women- but I think this is especially true for women in the Beta/Gamma quadras. And just look in her eyes. They are clearly Se not Si valuing.
She's probably instructed by her staff/managers to appear more Si to be more likeable and alpha oh shucks-ish in interviews. I think her real personality when the cameras are not rolling is anything but Si valuing, however.
IEI? No way. Not soft enough to be one. ((I think you probably just thought this by her relationship with that one douche who acted very stereotypically SLE but male LIEs/ILIs can also easily act that way. And even if he is SLE, a ESI/SLE relationship doesn't seem too strange.))
ESI
I get the ESI typings but I think she is SEE. It's not easy but one of the biggest reasons I think she is SEE over ESI is that her emotions seem to burst out of her which is common for 4d Fe types. Posture is flexible and languid, reactive to the environment (leaning on things, lounging in her seat, skewed stance, etc.) Also, her body language is open and spontaneous.
Comparing two 4d Fe types you can see the difference in temperament. Rihanna SEE and Oprah EIE.
She is SEE but it's not so obvious. She seems rational for a SEE but too irrational and extroverted to be ESI.
This is an ESI. There is a subtle difference between these two women.
Bound upon me, rush upon me, I will overcome you by enduring your onset: whatever strikes against that which is firm and unconquerable merely injures itself by its own violence. Wherefore, seek some soft and yielding object to pierce with your darts.
-Seneca
She's Alpha SF, most likely SEI, just a very sexual one lol
Last edited by hellohellohello; 08-06-2022 at 04:44 PM.
Aw she does seem SEE. A very sweet SEE, they exist
SEEs seem like types that wouldn’t let fame go to their head, they are naturally confident in themselves and comfortable with their insecurities (as long as not too unhealthy).
not sure between ESI/SEE
Last edited by Bethanyclaire; 08-06-2022 at 11:28 AM.
Something about how she looked when she was doing the Gwara Gwara dance makes me believe she is SEI. The curvy body, very feminine…and her determined face LOL
https://youtu.be/bMkYeMqLIXs
In the Seth and Rihanna Go Day Drinking video posted by @Toro, as well as in her other interviews with men, she repeatedly acts flirty and very giggly (which is what I’ve noticed with other female SEIs in a social setting— it seems very Alpha to “turn up the outward emotional atmosphere” in order to make the interview a success). Contrast that to the way she acts one-on-one with Oprah—there she comes across as a serious person with more depth. Also after Seth quickly downed his beer, she gave hers a demure and lady-like little attempt to try to drink hers, which also seems Si over Se valuing. Contrast that to Jennifer Lawrence (assuming that she is SEE?), I’m guessing that Jennifer would’ve given it her all—even spilling the drink down her chin in an effort to be a good sport and take on the challenge. It seems Rihanna prefers to maintain her lady-like softness and giggley Fe and emotionally syrupy persona.
In the video Rihanna - Interview - Friday Night with Jonathan Ross, posted by @Chae, Rihanna also tries to create a strong group emotional atmosphere by turning to the audience in the middle of the interview and claiming that Jonathan Ross keeps winking at her, while she flirtingly yet demurely pulls her dress more securely over her crotch (yet I don’t see him wink at all?). It just seems very damsel in distress, giggly Fe/Si than Se. This could just be the way she acts in interviews though…maybe to uphold her sex goddess image?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVT...emb_ch_name_ex
Last edited by ENJoymENT; 08-08-2022 at 02:19 PM.
SEE-se. But quite balanced, seems a bit SEI/ESI
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nvm its IEI or SEI Fe
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How in the universe is she 'sweet?' No offense but she looks like she wants to chew my nuts off and not in a sexy way. I think she's Gamma and I'm probably Alpha. Alive is Beta IEI, of course.
She looks so stereotypical Gamma SF that it hurts. Maybe it's so campy and stereotypical to even be true but I doubt it. "If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's an IEI" - socionic theory in 2023.
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Before anyone gets confused, this is a joke. I think whoever made this is insecure as hell.
A while ago I saw the whole video where she applies her make-up and I remember thinking 'not an F type'. Beta ST is an option.
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ESI even though @Sol doesn't think she is cute (which is the criteria of being Fi dom).
not enough for base Fi in my perception
example of ESI
> which is the criteria of being Fi dom
"cute" is linked with being emotionally pleasant. have much relation to F and IR.
Who gives significant "cute" impression have higher chance to have good IR. Where base Fi are among best for me.
Sometimes this leads to a mistake. As for example, initial impression from a conflictor of other sex is rather positive, while the type is close to 2 types in good IR. At _some_ people, with initial surface human's knowledge a perception of negative IR effects and some types traits can be masked by _non-Jung_ types traits and behavior. For those people to mistake IEI -> EII, ESI becomes easier for me.
Last edited by Sol; 11-25-2023 at 02:54 PM.
I actually think this famous person might just be ESI and not EIE