Noam Chomsky

[NeonMonk]

quotes:

How it is we have so much information, but know so little?

We shouldn't be looking for heroes, we should be looking for good ideas.

The whole educational and professional training system is a very elaborate filter, which just weeds out people who are too independent, and who think for themselves, and who don't know how to be submissive, and so on -- because they're dysfunctional to the institutions.

Education is a system of imposed ignorance.

The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum.

Optimism is a strategy for making a better future. Because unless you believe that the future can be better, you are unlikely to step up and take responsibility for making it so.

Everyone’s worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there’s really an easy way: Stop participating in it.

For the powerful, crimes are those that others commit.
See, people with power understand exactly one thing: violence.

I was never aware of any other option but to question everything.

All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.

I think it only makes sense to seek out and identify structures of authority, hierarchy, and domination in every aspect of life, and to challenge them; unless a justification for them can be given, they are illegitimate, and should be dismantled, to increase the scope of human freedom.

That's the whole point of good propaganda. You want to create a slogan that nobody's going to be against, and everybody's going to be for. Nobody knows what it means, because it doesn't mean anything.

Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like it's from Neptune.

It is quite possible--overwhelmingly probable, one might guess--that we will always learn more about human life and personality from novels than from scientific psychology.

[Creepy-]

I’ve heard that he isn't much into impractical theories. So I’m not too sure about him being any kind of N.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naom_Ch...munities<br />

[MysticSonic]

INTp?

The antithesis of Ayn Rand.

[Cone]

INTp?

The antithesis of Ayn Rand.

How is INTp the antithesis of Ayn Rand? Ayn Rand oozes .

[MysticSonic]

I meant his political leanings.

[Creepy-]

Alan Greenspan(INTp,or atleast I think) supported Ayn Rand's theories.

[MysticSonic]

What's your point?

My typing him of an INTp has nothing to do with his political ideology.

[schrödinger's cat]

then perhaps you'll enjoy this: http://rubberducky.org/cgi-bin/chomsky.pl

[Creepy-bg]

LII or ILI?

[CuriousSoul]

Or ILE?

[anndelise]

Much of his stuff is right?

[Creepy-bg]

surely his political work shows

but his work in linquistics seems to me more oriented...

personally I tend to think ILI which would seem to support both

however I'm not the best at typing...

[Creepy-bg]

then again he seems to express emotions (facially) more so than ILI... perhaps LII or ILE is correct.

[anndelise]

surely his political work shows

but his work in linquistics seems to me more oriented...

personally I tend to think ILI which would seem to support both

however I'm not the best at typing...

Ha, goes to show what I know...I'm only familiar with some of his linguistic works...that was what I was referring to as Te.

[Creepy-bg]

[quote="implied"]

what about his linguistics work seems oriented to you, just out of curiosity?

Honestly I have nothing to back that up, just a gut hunch. probably wrong...

[Creepy-bg]

yes I can see being a better catagorizing of his linquistics work... excuse my rash posting.

[Rick]

I don't know Noam Chomsky too well, but I've just looked through a bunch of photos.
Intuitive - without a question
Intuitive and logical - definitely
Extravert - probably

I'm leaning towards ILE, but he might be LIE as well.

I think Bertrand Russell may have been an LIE.

[Dioklecian]

INTP for sure !

[Dioklecian]

well.

he's basically anti-behaviorist/anti-b.f. skinner.

i think this is important re: chomsky.

chomsky said that language learners have two components - competence & performance.

competence = what you know. what you know about the rules of language.

performance = what you show. what you actually say while speaking, double negatives, errors, all that.

he also said that performance (what you show) is not necessarily a good measure of competence (what you know.)

another thing: he's anti-corpus linguistics.

Corpus linguistics is the study of language as expressed in samples (corpora) or "real world" text. The approach runs counter to Noam Chomsky's view that real language is riddled with performance-related errors, thus requiring careful analysis of small speech samples obtained in a highly controlled laboratory setting. Corpus linguistics does away with Chomsky's competence/performance split; adherents believe that reliable language analysis best occurs on field-collected samples, in natural contexts and with minimal experimental interference.

i think an LIE could come up with stuff like this.

ILE somehow seems more likely, though. i'm glad someone brought this up, though, as he's kind of like trying to type einstein.

noam chomsky wikiquote

george lakoff (cognitive linguist, good guy) said this:

What he does in linguistics is exactly what he campaigns against in politics. He feeds off people. He doesn't allow anyone to disagree with him.

maybe this is why everyone is so confused. (;

I think one should look at chomsky's quotes, it is more illuminating in my opinion.

[Cone]

Here is my definitive heretic view:

ESTp.

[Cone]

That was one of my considerations. Also the fact that he looks and acts very similarly to one of my psychology professors, who is ESTp.

[Ms. Kensington]

seems there is this thread, one other one that Dio authored with no type talk, and a thread about INTjs.

I bumped this one.

[crazedrat]

INTx for sure ... I think INTp, but I'll have to watch some videos of him

[Ms. Kensington]

heyy macarena ayyyy

*bump*

[1981slater]

I found this pic. ENTpish

[Beautiful sky]

INFj

[glam]

... Howard Zinn, who is definitely ego and probably Delta NF.

i recently read "A People's History of the United States" and from his writing that's the same impression i had.

[Galen]

Colorless green ideas dream furiously.

[Metamorph]

Why am I the only one who voted ILE? He is more known for his speaking and public appearances than for his writing or ideas. He has not written new linguistics books or articles in decades and when I sent him materials relating to linguistics asking about his opinions he seemed mostly but not entirely uninterested, talking as if he will not have enough time left in his life to read about linguistics, the field his actual professorship is in, and must fully dedicate himself to public speaking and news article writing about politics and current events.

Of course, even having polls on all these threads, at least anonymous polls, is a travesty, as if truth were decided by popular consensus.

[xerx]

Social activism is cool.

[Poptart]

Social activism is cool.

According to…?

[Manatroid92]

According to…?

Me, and @xerx.

[Poptart]

Me, and @xerx.

Who died and made you the arbiter of cool? :p

[xerx]

According to…?

According to lots of good folks [:

[Poptart]

According to lots of good folks [:

I feel like if social activism is cool, then why is SJW an insult and not a complement?

[mu4]

I favor LSE because of some really stereotypical Delta values. His free public lectures can easily be framed within the context of a career of service to his community.

He was very good friends with the late activist Howard Zinn, who is definitely ego and probably Delta NF.

I think he's EII. EII's are very hard working I've found, they can to over do stuff and overwork and be extremely responsible.

[Creepy-male]

I think he's EII. EII's are very hard working I've found, they can to over do stuff and overwork and be extremely responsible.

hkkmr has three gears:

• 1) Type someone as ILE
• 2) Type someone as EII
• 3) KICK REASON TO THE CURB AND DO THE IMPOSSIBLE!!!!

[mu4]

hkkmr has three gears:

• 1) Type someone as ILE
• 2) Type someone as EII
• 3) KICK REASON TO THE CURB AND DO THE IMPOSSIBLE!!!!

Um, what? I typed MIA as SLE earlier.

I type Glam as IEI, Starfall as IEI, Haylee Williams as SLI, Sarinana as EIE.

Please, don't say something that's not true.

Oh yea, Brian, you're not SEI or a 9, now shut the fuck up, I don't want to deal with you.

[MatthewZ]

LII.

[jughead]

I find him a shitty speaker, hard to follow.
In that interview