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    Is it really?

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    the fat one in jeans is LSE.



    torch: ese 9w1 so/sx
    lisa: sle 8w7 so/sx
    susanna: iei 4w3 sx/sp
    daisy: eii 3w4 sx/sp



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    Lucy Van Pelt....LSE-Te


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    Baldwin's character....such a LSE-Te 7w8 sp/sx (basically, a gordon ramsay)


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    Tom Ripley...IEE-Fi


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    Tom Ripley...IEE-Fi


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    Don Logan...LSE-Si 8w7 sx/sp


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    Default Delta Characters/Themes

    I was thinking fictional, but anything that seems to fit delta is welcome.

    TV show:
    The Rifleman


    LSE maybe? Only saw one episode but the theme seemed decidely delta. The protagonist throws out Te left and right while stressing Ne and Fi ideals.

    Movies:
    All Roads Lead Home

    Less so the characters as the movie itself (though I thought the grandfather was ExTj and there are likely other deltas in the cast). I'll warn you, it is not a good movie if you look into it. The only notable thing besides that it seemed delta was the fact that the movie was filmed within about 50 miles of where I live. It also won some kind of film award, but I suspect foul play.




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    Chad Lowe in "Fielder's Choice". LSE (or possibly SLI), with a strong focus on Delta values throughout the movie, particularly in Philips behavior and motives.

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    Bud White and Lynn Bracken in L.A. Confidential.

    Not sure, but they are very aloof and at the same time very intense.
    I was wondering hard for Bud's type but Lynn is clearly xNFx, i would say... INFJ
    She displays little Fe despite her "job".
    She shows deep Ne insight (she knows what's going to happen if X goes like this or like that, is a good strategist).
    She holds on strong values : no lies ever, concern for others, a need to return to her home despite all the glorious dreams of hollywood.
    She's very private and does not trust easily, except for Bud.
    She does not have lavish material tastes : it's only for her business, her chambers remain simple and modest with a souvenir from her home.
    Only Bud has access to her sanctuary. She feels as a hole with him. No need for words, she knows what's going on inside the man.

    As for the mentioned Bud... makes me wonder. If someone's watched the movie, a little help would be appreciated

    For what i've observed, he is equally low on Fe, even when he uses physical violence.
    He is concerned by his intellectual abilities (wants to demonstrate proper investigations/deductions).
    He's annoyed by political manipulation. Has a thing against Exley because his behaviour does not seem trustworthy (low Ne ?)
    He stubbornly punishes violent husbands.
    He's more concerned by getting the right thing done than doing it in a proper way. It's very efficient, with no waste of time/energy (is that Si or Se ???)
    He doesn't care too much about wealth (he happily gives any money he finds to the widow, or to the poor beaten woman).
    He doesn't try to convince others. They are either cooperative, or reluctant. If they are reluctant, he does not use persuasion but basic violence.

    They may be aloof LSE with confident EII it's a beautiful couple anyway.



    That's an exercise i like !
    If my little analyses annoy you, please feel free to say so, i don't want to impose myself. It's just that i've seen none of the movie/TV shows you mention, as i'm french, so it's frustrating. I love watching delta movies actually

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    I'd be more inclined to put Bud as some kind of Se ego, possibly gamma > beta? Lynn is at least conceivably EII. It's been forever and a day since I've seen the movie but I can't think of anything that is startlingly against that type except for the calculated fling with Exxel, though I forget the reason behind that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    I'd be more inclined to put Bud as some kind of Se ego, possibly gamma > beta? Lynn is at least conceivably EII. It's been forever and a day since I've seen the movie but I can't think of anything that is startlingly against that type except for the calculated fling with Exxel, though I forget the reason behind that.
    To set up Bud, so he would go and kill Exxel. Photos have been done with her and Exxel and later Bud discovered those photos "by an accident".
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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    I'd be more inclined to put Bud as some kind of Se ego, possibly gamma > beta?
    I'd be inclined to put almost every role Crow does as some kind of Se ego, or at least Se valuing.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
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    Default LSE and EII films

    A wonderful display of individual values and qualities in each type comes shining through in "LA Confidential" starring Russell Crow, LSE and Guy Pierce, EII. They were starred almost exactly according to their socitype in this amazing movie that displays duality so well. When they merge to work together, they become a team that uses, as I've said many times before about this particular dual pair, an unspoken intuitive (with a small case i.n.) language. A relationship where both the characters grow to apprehend qualities of the other and in such they learn to experience the gray shades they never knew before.

    I love this film

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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    Quote Originally Posted by Courage
    Stirlitz was regarded as the ideal KGB agent. Born in Russian heartland (a town of Gorokhovets mistakenly placed "on the Volga river" in the feature), he was a renaissance man who knew how to complete missions but was also familiar with high culture. He spoke all European languages except Irish and Albanian. He favored the intellectual approach over violence and is believed to have killed only one time in his fifty year career as an agent. Like James Bond, he had a favorite drink, cognac. He drove a Horch car and was not as taken by women as Bond, declining the offer of some supposedly attractive prostitutes with the rejoinder "I'd rather drink some coffee." During his constant travels, Stirlitz missed Russia and longed to return.
    Sounds like me
    that is seriously a highly appealing trait.
    Being an ideal KGB agent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Courage
    Being an ideal KGB agent?
    yes, exactly.
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    How bout Nurse Ratched? hahaha or was she gamma?

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    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    Quote Originally Posted by Courage
    Being an ideal KGB agent?
    yes, exactly.
    It was a serious question though - what were you referring to? The treatment of women?
    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
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    ~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
    ~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.

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    How can anyone forget James Bond.....

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    LSE > SLE?


    If you guys really think so I don't have a problem with it. Seems to go for women fairly easy. Maybe the classic James Bond, but the one in Casino Royale is definitely not a model LSE. I think he demonstrates a pretty good polr.
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    Maximus, from Galdiator

    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
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    ~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
    ~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.

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    the ones you have to deal with at work:

    IEI - the nasty kind...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Courage
    If you guys really think so I don't have a problem with it. Seems to go for women fairly easy. Maybe the classic James Bond, but the one in Casino Royale is definitely not a model LSE. I think he demonstrates a pretty good polr.
    The Bond of Casino Royale and the books is either ISTj-Se or ESTp-Ti. Not ESTj at all.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by Courage
    If you guys really think so I don't have a problem with it. Seems to go for women fairly easy. Maybe the classic James Bond, but the one in Casino Royale is definitely not a model LSE. I think he demonstrates a pretty good polr.
    The Bond of Casino Royale and the books is either ISTj-Se or ESTp-Ti. Not ESTj at all.
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilingeyes View Post
    Agreed.

    Instead I submit a sad old fish

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    clear LSI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilingeyes
    Instead I submit a sad old fish

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    Tintin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro
    Quote Originally Posted by Smilingeyes
    Instead I submit a sad old fish

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    Tintin!
    I don't think Tintin's ESTj, more like... Hmm... ESFp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilingeyes
    Quote Originally Posted by Elro
    Quote Originally Posted by Smilingeyes
    Instead I submit a sad old fish

    Captain Haddock
    Tintin!
    I don't think Tintin's ESTj, more like... Hmm... ESFp.
    Oh sorry, I didn't mean Tintin was ESTj - I was enthused because I had forgotten that comic existed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilingeyes
    Instead I submit a sad old fish

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    this has got to be my favorite ESTj suggestion to date.

    i would probably agree with tin tin as ESFp as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro
    Oh sorry, I didn't mean Tintin was ESTj - I was enthused because I had forgotten that comic existed.
    Move to Belgium, they'll never let you forget it
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    I HATE SPONGEBOB

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    Actually, that's pretty good, I could see that as the background music to when they work sometimes.

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    A remarkably annoying and inappropriate song.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    I HATE SPONGEBOB
    Me too


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    Tuco...LSE-Si 8w7 sx/sp....the good the bad and the ugly

    Winston Wolf....LSE-Te 7w8 sp/sx....pulp fiction

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    Ghost Dog in Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai is either ISTp or INTp.

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