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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    They're broken up by now.
    In seven hours?

    Blaze happens to be quoting the post that necro'd this thread earlier today.



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    I find ESFjs I know in real life quite annoying and way too expressive, and they're always trying to get emotions out of others, especially wild and crazy, "neutral tinted positive" and rather meaningless talk, it's sick. They have that EJ paranoia. One turned my ISTj best friend into a trivial joke when they were dating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    I find ESFjs I know in real life quite annoying and way too expressive, and they're always trying to get emotions out of others, especially wild and crazy, "neutral tinted positive" and rather meaningless talk, it's sick. They have that EJ paranoia. One turned my ISTj best friend into a trivial joke when they were dating.
    Sooo... what you're saying is that ESFjs and INTps probably won't get along very well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    Sooo... what you're saying is that ESFjs and INTps probably won't get along very well?
    Probably not. There is also the idea that conflictors may seem like duals when you first see them, which I haven't noticed at all. Duals usually seem like duals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    Sooo... what you're saying is that ESFjs and INTps probably won't get along very well?
    No no no. What he's clearly saying is that his post in no way adds to the substance of this thread that resurrected from the lowest depths of Heck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    In seven hours?

    Blaze happens to be quoting the post that necro'd this thread earlier today.
    Whoops I confused the post's date with the rest of the 2005 thread.
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    I think the differences between duals is exaggerated in most cases. Yes we need complementary traits, but we also need similar traits. If there aren't enough similar traits... well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    Malia was ok, nothing to say, but Aiss behaved improperly IMO. Only fools pick on such unimportant details to accuse someone of incompetence. I agree with you that maybe she confused something, but let me tell you that I myself considered the difference irrelevant few years ago, although I knew the differences between the systems.
    esfjgirl didn't even theorized on that, she just described a relationship, it's very hard to say what she knows or not, having just one post doesn't mean she is necessarily dumb to jump on her like the wolf on a weak lamb. Mistyping is not something uncommon, and it's not usually related to this confusion, it's exaggerated to put a wrong conclusion on that, imo.

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    @Aiss ^ + you took things too absolutely. Just ask and figure out what's she talking about, does she make a confusion or not, don't jump to conclusions so early please.
    Whereas bitter people pick on others for lack of better argument.

    Where do you see me making any conclusions in this thread? Or accusations for that matter? I asked whether she was using socionics. If you have a problem with it, it's your problem, not mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiss View Post
    Where do you see me making any conclusions in this thread? Or accusations for that matter? I asked whether she was using socionics. If you have a problem with it, it's your problem, not mine.
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    This thread is rather old, but it sounds like half the people were talking MBTI.
    that doesn't look like a question to me (alphas tend to take observations seriously)
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    Quote Originally Posted by electric sheep View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by electric sheep View Post
    that doesn't look like a question to me (alphas tend to take observations seriously)
    This observation is about thread in general, not about esfjgirl and her typings, as was the first question. I rather think Pinocchio meant the latter here:

    Mistyping is not something uncommon, and it's not usually related to this confusion, it's exaggerated to put a wrong conclusion on that, imo.
    Even if you assume it's a conclusion because it doesn't end with question mark, it doesn't make it any more about esfjgirl, and therefore her typing, or confusion, or implied exaggeration on my part. :sigh:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliand View Post
    In seven hours?

    Blaze happens to be quoting the post that necro'd this thread earlier today.
    necro'd? hahahaha

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    My husband is INTJ and I'm ESFJ. We have a strong marriage but we had to learn communication. I don't nag at him because I know he doesn't respond well. I give him his space and take care of all of his needs. If I want to talk about his day he knows he doesn't have to actually listen unless I express that specific need. Sometimes I've just been alone all day and need someone to talk to. Responses aren't necessary. My husband says we are a great match because we are similar in the important areas and complement each other. It takes understanding to make this pairing work, and sacrifice for both parties. ESFJs who need to be in charge are a pain for INTJs. INTJs who refuse to meet an ESFJs need of approval hurt the ESFJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ard4 View Post
    My husband is INTJ and I'm ESFJ. We have a strong marriage but we had to learn communication. I don't nag at him because I know he doesn't respond well. I give him his space and take care of all of his needs. If I want to talk about his day he knows he doesn't have to actually listen unless I express that specific need. Sometimes I've just been alone all day and need someone to talk to. Responses aren't necessary. My husband says we are a great match because we are similar in the important areas and complement each other. It takes understanding to make this pairing work, and sacrifice for both parties. ESFJs who need to be in charge are a pain for INTJs. INTJs who refuse to meet an ESFJs need of approval hurt the ESFJ.
    Yeah, I've often heard people say this about initial stage of their relations. Approval and understanding are big starting points. I think it's just easier to meet a dual who's parents are a dual to them, hence a dual to you. I think my boyfriend's mother is INFj I think I will cry if this happens. It's kinda important to me to feel completely engulfed in love.

    Um, my boyfriend and I are like two peas in a pod. It makes me wonder.
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