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    I can't, they do not exist.

    Try proving that they do.

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    I dont think its possible proving any of socionics exists. I was just challenging you. And you should know I have a tendency to say "prove it" whenever someone makes a declaration about the existence of something .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agee View Post
    I can't, they do not exist.

    Try proving that they do.
    Anything can exist so long as you develop a system that allows for its existence.

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    No, anything can be fabricated, but to exist means to be actual in reality.

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    For me, there is a significant change. Si ISTp are too soft for me as well. My boyfriend is ESTj Si, which makes him less harsh than Te subtype and it's also easier for me to interact with him . The same about INTjs - I get on really well with Ne subtype, much worse with Ti subtype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agee View Post
    No, anything can be fabricated, but to exist means to be actual in reality.
    Retsyn didn't exist until Certs invented it.

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    People giving names to things they think they do not exist. Pretty funny.

    When it is on everyone's mouth one just needs to give it a name and voila, behold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agee View Post
    I can't, they do not exist.

    Try proving that they do.
    Already been done, use the search feature.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agee View Post
    No, anything can be fabricated, but to exist means to be actual in reality.
    Subjective realism. All perceptions and thus reality is a fabrication by your standards. What you're saying is a contradiction.

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    It's a rather simple deduction to come to the conclusion there are subtypes. It isn't like there are 16 people that have been cloned 375000000 times each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    It's a rather simple deduction to come to the conclusion there are subtypes. It isn't like there are 16 people that have been cloned 375000000 times each.
    ....Um....dur, nobodies the same. I can assure you that there are definitely no subtypes though, thats just people trying to overcomplicate things. If there are subtypes of types, then there are subtypes of subtypes, which have subtypes of their own, and so forth.

    But even if we were to say people were clones of each other, even if there were definite 16 types of people in this world; being a clone might mean they are psychologically the same...but they'd inevitably be taking different paths which would produce different outcomes, which is what we can see in real life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agee View Post
    ....Um....dur, nobodies the same. I can assure you that there are definitely no subtypes though, thats just people trying to overcomplicate things. If there are subtypes of types, then there are subtypes of subtypes, which have subtypes of their own, and so forth.

    But even if we were to say people were clones of each other, even if there were definite 16 types of people in this world; being a clone might mean they are psychologically the same...but they'd inevitably be taking different paths which would produce different outcomes, which is what we can see in real life.
    is your argument:'There are no differentiated "subtypes" BECAUSE that's too complex?' That's not an argument. That's like saying there are no atoms because molecules are already so complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanashi View Post
    is your argument:'There are no differentiated "subtypes" BECAUSE that's too complex?' That's not an argument. That's like saying there are no atoms because molecules are already so complex.
    No. Not complex. Over-complicated, as in completely unnecessary and therefore not true at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agee View Post
    No. Not complex. Over-complicated, as in completely unnecessary and therefore not true at all.
    That is a subjective statement, and you aren't supporting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratsshadow View Post
    Already been done, use the search feature.

    Subjective realism. All perceptions and thus reality is a fabrication by your standards. What you're saying is a contradiction.
    Use the search function? That's just another way of opting out and saying it hasn't been proven yet. Subjective realism? No, what the fuck are you talking about. Im talking about reality and your over there talking about philosophy. There's a reason why philosophy is useless, it gets you nowhere. You're supposedly IEI, you lack Se, stay in your corner if you can't comprehend wtf im saying.

    There's real, and then there's not real. Example. The president is real. Santa Clause is not. Just because a child may believe in Santa Clause in its own mind doesn't mean Santa Claus actually exist in reality. Take that new-age bullshit and get the fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    It's a rather simple deduction to come to the conclusion there are subtypes. It isn't like there are 16 people that have been cloned 375000000 times each.
    lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Agee View Post
    Use the search function? That's just another way of opting out and saying it hasn't been proven yet.
    Why should anyone reexplain something which has been gone over so in depth before and is also pretty fuckin obvious and a dumb question? .. Re^ what Hitta said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agee View Post
    Subjective realism? No, what the fuck are you talking about. Im talking about reality and your over there talking about philosophy. There's a reason why philosophy is useless, it gets you nowhere. You're supposedly IEI, you lack Se, stay in your corner if you can't comprehend wtf im saying.
    Reality has a subjective component. That can be shown pretty easily philosophically, and demonstrated in physics in alot of interesting ways. We can talk about it if you want, but I don't think you want to. So you're uneducated, well wear it like a badge. Are you from a poor background? You're in highschool aren't you? Learn when to keep your mouth shut and listen, you will get farther.

    IEIs don't lack Se just like you don't lack Fi.. It's just a different form of the function. That's something I'm willing to explain since 95 percent of the forum still doesn't get it. Also, stop trying to act like a badass over the internet. In my experience SLEs are actually pussies. I saw that thread where you're afraid to walk up to a girl and ask her on a date? You don't have balls. I know because I also have no balls. Don't bullshit a bullshitter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agee View Post
    There's real, and then there's not real. Example. The president is real. Santa Clause is not. Just because a child may believe in Santa Clause in its own mind doesn't mean Santa Claus actually exist in reality. Take that new-age bullshit and get the fuck.
    The child doesn't actually believe santa clause exists in the outside world. That's the problem with language which people never catch. It's a misleading way of thinking to use words. Words are really functional more than logical. The child believes santa exists in his imagination, because he does. The mind is a physical thing. The phenomenon of experiencing an imagination of santa existing is real. And there are subjective elements everywhere in reality, even on physical levels. New age bullshit.. no it's new age, but not bullshit. I mean, if you want to remain an angsty dipshit that's your right. You'll probably change your mind after a few acid trips. Go do some acid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratsshadow View Post
    lol


    Why should anyone reexplain something which has been gone over so in depth before and is also pretty fuckin obvious and a dumb question? .. Re^ what Hitta said.



    Reality has a subjective component. That can be shown pretty easily philosophically, and demonstrated in physics in alot of interesting ways. We can talk about it if you want, but I don't think you want to. So you're uneducated, well wear it like a badge. Are you from a poor background? You're in highschool aren't you? Learn when to keep your mouth shut and listen, you will get farther.

    IEIs don't lack Se just like you don't lack Fi.. It's just a different form of the function. That's something I'm willing to explain since 95 percent of the forum still doesn't get it. Also, stop trying to act like a badass over the internet. In my experience SLEs are actually pussies. I saw that thread where you're afraid to walk up to a girl and ask her on a date? You don't have balls. I know because I also have no balls. Don't bullshit a bullshitter.


    The child doesn't actually believe santa clause exists in the outside world. That's the problem with language which people never catch. It's a misleading way of thinking to use words. Words are really functional more than logical. The child believes santa exists in his imagination, because he does. The mind is a physical thing. The phenomenon of experiencing an imagination of santa existing is real. And there are subjective elements everywhere in reality, even on physical levels. New age bullshit.. no it's new age, but not bullshit. I mean, if you want to remain an angsty dipshit that's your right. You'll probably change your mind after a few acid trips. Go do some acid.
    You know im not reading none of that, because I know that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

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    No, you aren't reading it cuz you don't give a shit. And that's fine cuz neither do I, fuck you

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedratsshadow View Post
    No, you aren't reading it cuz you don't give a shit. And that's fine cuz neither do I, fuck you
    No thank you, im flattered, but im not going to fuck you. Go fuck yourself.

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