[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=wwfzDhJp8Cc[/youtube]
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=wwfzDhJp8Cc[/youtube]
mamannnnn ca c'est pas cooool! what is his mom, aside from completely fed up with her kid's videogaming habits? some SJ?
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
My opinion: The poor kid is a victim of boredom. Boredom is one of the worst forms of suffering. Computers, internet, and video games help to aleviate boredom. Without mental stimulation, there is only boredom. If his mom wants to curve his video game/computer addiction, then she needs to provide him with an alternate form of mental stimulation. I feel that some people don't understand how unbearable boredom truly is.
Disclaimer: I don't understand French.
well, i don't claim to be fluent in french either, but she was pretty easy to understand dragging the kid around and going IL EST MINUIT!!!!!!!!!!! i mean, on a certain level i think i understood the mother better than her kid obviously did who seems to be displaying some shitty selective listening.
@ loki - what would you suggest his mother do?
i know a guy like this. he is pretty much so entrenched in the videogame/internet world that i wouldn't even attempt something like that mom (although i'm sure his own mother tried with him and her efforts were completely futile.)
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
what a disrespectful little punk!
EII
I'll tell you what
there is plenty wrong with me
but I fixed up a few old buildings
and I've planted a few trees.
Huh. Why can't the mom just let the boy spend like an hour playing?
Doesn't have to be the whole day.
I don't think there's anything wrong playing video games. They do require thinking, and some other benefits.
Of course, he shouldn't be spending the whole day playing video games, too much of one thing is not good IMO.
INTp
sx/sp
You aren't ILI are you ?Originally Posted by Loki
I'm more likely IEI. Why?Originally Posted by machintruc
Originally Posted by Mea
i think the problem here is that it *is* the whole day. i don't think even more than a few hours is a problem until it becomes your sole reason for living.
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
oh GOD.
me fait trop rire " c'est la guerre des étoile" " il se lave pas, la douche c'est une fois par semaine ! " Mdr
god damn dude. i heard his mom or whoever say that at the end and i nearly died as well. mort de nasty!
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
ILI are all computer nerds which don't have a life lolOriginally Posted by Loki
Originally Posted by machintruc
INTp
sx/sp
eww... I didn't catch that.Originally Posted by implied
EII
I'll tell you what
there is plenty wrong with me
but I fixed up a few old buildings
and I've planted a few trees.
What does that mean?Originally Posted by rockclimber
I see "war" and possibly "dung" or its equivalents...
Originally Posted by Logos
Retired from posting and drawing Social Security. E-mail or PM to contact.
I pity your souls
ILI children are extremely difficult to educate. Driss' grandmother behaves too sweetly with him and his mother has a more passive-aggressive style.
I attend a Catholic milieu. Even in well-educating backgrounds, ILI keep their autistic cognitive properties, and will behave very distantly with people (I know especially two ILI girls...)
Simon Cowell, ISFj, and Conan O'Brien, ENTj. I think they're both balanced subtypes.
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=JKbJoWxq5HE[/youtube]
I agree. That's a good example of Gamma interaction. They pursue one single subject for a long time rather than shift from one to another.Originally Posted by discojoe
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKSxHYK_wfs
paris hilton is so esfp... you can tell she's trying to hold back tears... a really good interview actually and when i say good i mean so mean. what do you think david letterman is?
ESFp-Fi sub
6w7 sx/so/sp
i can't find any good quality video, but I think this woman who has a reality show on VH1 - Tiffany Pollard (aka "New York") is so ESFp. I actually find her charming. But I know we are conflictors.
here's some of the only good quality videos I could find on yotube with the amount of time I am willing to spend hehe. First one is more artificial but more neutral, bottom one shows interactions with another in a competitive situation, which might be better. "Why WOULDN'T i want to [fight/compete] with you". Se.
i gotta tell you some of the cadences and mannerisms are deja vu
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goddamn she makes my head spin (new york). So inconsistent and political.
well, its just an opposite thought process of alpha. you can lable it autistic if you'd like. I used to think I might of had aspergers syndrome, until I learned about socionics and the functions. It seems like you have a need to rationalize the inferiority of the ILI thought process in your mind, as a way of defending your ego against anything which may disturb its integrity which is based around thoughts pertaining to your supreme intelligence. This is a mental disorder that you have. Its a latent mental disorder, its a rational mental disorder. Go have fun with it
The ideal state of mind is a state of balance. It is a place where ILI and LII merge together
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no, ......... why would that be the reason why?Originally Posted by ifmd95
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Oh god, I think I need to mentally shit and vomite.
Let me tell you why.
A thought which is correct from more perspectives, the more omnipotent thought, is the more true thought. You will agree with me on that correct?
If I make a generalization about something, like all black people are theives... the extent to which this generalization is consistently true, is a measure of its validity as a statement, its level of correctedness.
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So the thoughts which can be arrived at from multiple perspectives, the "places where ILI and LII converge", are the thoughts which are most meaningful, most important, most true etc. The thoughts which are correct under a wider variety of circumstances.
K
K. As you said, an ideal state is relative to a perspective. It is the balancing of the requirements of all the elements of a particular perspective. You agree with me on that, right? So there is an array of perspectives, there is also an array of ideal states. But there is also an ideal perspective, which is the most omniscient perspective, and I discussed this in what I just said to you.. and from this there is.. well using the terms you're trying to stick to, an ideal ideal state. So this ideal state of the ideal perspective, or the omniscient perspective, is what I was talking about. I think the ideal ideal state, is more ideal then a simply ideal state, or a non-ideal ideal state. So when I said "the ideal state", using the word ideal as a blanket term, you should of interpreted that as ideal in every sense of the word, I think that makes the most sense...Originally Posted by ifmd95
Now as you said there are things people desire that have nothing to do with knowledge. This is true, but all this proves is 1: the ideal ideal state may not be limited to knowledge, which I don't think it is 2: that non-ideal, or non-omniscient, limited perspectives create their own set of desires or requirements for a return to balance or a non-ideal ideal state, and these are the desires you are thinking of and refering to, but these desires are only relevent to a limited perspective.. on top of this, I think it can be argued it is the goal of every person to achieve the ideal perspective over the limited perspective.
I do not think it is possible to learn more, from maintaining a limited perspective. learning implies the widening perspective I think by definition. You are only confused about what exactly constitutes a limited perspective, or a more omniscient perspective.
I pretty much don't like deviating topics. What would ILI children think of you ?
This is pretty much the reason ESFps hate INTjs...
But only the maladapted INTjs show this tendency (see above)
I don't care. SEE have a low IQ.Originally Posted by crazedrat
Says (s)he who fails to construct proper sentences 90% of the time.Originally Posted by machintruc
The superiority complex of the majority of the "alpha" members on this forum flusters me.
Is that your criteria for people who you should care about?Originally Posted by machintruc
SEE have lots of qualities.
Yes. People are more at ease with low-IQ people. Therefore low-IQ people are more sociable.Originally Posted by Jarno
SEE like ILI because ILI have, on average, the highest IQ.
then clearly your assumptions are wrong, or else they fail to take certain variables of how SEEs actually act into account. (both of these are the case).Originally Posted by Loki
Originally Posted by Loki
Socionics states that a relationship is build upon the functions one uses and not the IQ that one has. I've never been irritated by the lower IQ of SEE.
And even if they have a low IQ this doesn't mean they can be smart when it comes to working with people.
But it's indeed true that if you want a mental challenge, you will need to be in the company of you identical or mirror. They use the same Ego functions which are better developed at some points then your own.
And which assumptions are those?Originally Posted by niffweed17
You honestly believe SEEs have low IQs?Originally Posted by Jarno
I interrupt this topic to bring you a most important announcement:
Machintruc very likely has a normal IQ.
Whenever I hear people garbling on about IQ scores this is most often the case.
In fact I've known a few people that were like this, one very proudly announced that he was off to get an IQ test. A few months later when I inquired as to the results he acted like he didn't know what I was talking about. My suspicion is that the results were not quite what he suspected.
I had an IQ test whilst staying in a barrel of monkeys, the results were amusing to me and seemed to highly annoy my shrink.
Basically, it's something like this :
Let's consider the Gulenko's groups of communicability :
EF - low IQ, high EQ
IT - high IQ, low EQ
ET and IF - average on both.
This explains why SEE tend to have low IQ, and why women have, on average, lower IQ than men - because women lack IT and men lack EF.
Recently, my mom (EIE) has passed an IQ test on my computer (from Eysenck), and her results were something like "not enough correct answers to evaluate an IQ". This supposes that she has less than 80. That doesn't mean EF types are retarded. They just have, on average, a lower IQ.
Why does everyone want to make me vomit today?
SEE Unknown Subtype
6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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You know, the consensus is that IQ is 50% genetic 50% environment.Originally Posted by machintruc
You might have the flu.Originally Posted by Khamelion
Originally Posted by Garmonbozia
No it only happens when I read certain things written around here.
SEE Unknown Subtype
6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
.
Oh.Originally Posted by Khamelion
Como...?
You may also be with child.