Differences between ISFj-ESI and ISFp-SEI

[mfckr]

Luckily both Aushra and the question asker are apparently ILE!

OMG REALLY???

[consentingadult]

It's very easy, if you are really ILE: an SEI will listen endlessly to your theoretical Ne-ramblings, and give you the impression they understand and agree, even when they don't. Your ramblings will be met with disapproval by ESIs, and at best they will argue with you and constantly disagree with most of what you say, opposing it with their own perspective, which you think is rather narrow-minded, outdated and makes you feel they haven't understood a single bit of what you said, that they didn't get the point.

ETA: another thing, SEIs, although not as expressive as ESEs, might laugh boisterous when they think something is very funny. ESIs are more likely to chuckle, or just smile, not even baring their teeth.

[Beautiful sky]

It's very easy, if you are really ILE: an SEI will listen endlessly to your theoretical Ne-ramblings, and give you the impression they understand and agree, even when they don't. Your ramblings will be met with disapproval by ESIs, and at best they will argue with you and constantly disagree with most of what you say, opposing it with their own perspective, which you think is rather narrow-minded, outdated and makes you feel they haven't understood a single bit of what you said, that they didn't get the point.

ETA: another thing, SEIs, although not as expressive as ESEs, might laugh boisterous when they think something is very funny. ESIs are more likely to chuckle, or just smile, not even baring their teeth.

Yes, and that may be because an ESI expects pragmatic, concrete actions. ESI are "very exacting of others. And no one gets away with any irresponsibility."

SEI are more socially expansive than ESI. I, or an EII, unlike and ESI, won't clean to the point of sterilizing the home. They have immense amount of energy that they can lend to tasks.

[FDG]

Yes, and that may be because an ESI expects pragmatic, concrete actions. ESI are "very exacting of others. And no one gets away with any irresponsibility."

That's not an accurate characterization for a horizontal relationship - how do you think ESIs could get along with dominants by being "very exacting"?. If you have an ESI boss or neurotic mother, that might be true, even though they tendentially act in such a way when they are stressed and insecure as to what to do next.

[Beautiful sky]

That's not an accurate characterization for a horizontal relationship - how do you think ESIs could get along with dominants by being "very exacting"?. If you have an ESI boss or neurotic mother, that might be true, even though they tendentially act in such a way when they are stressed and insecure as to what to do next.

In the exacting attitude, they help to ground their inventive, venturing duals and also participate in their business.

[FDG]

In the exacting attitude, they help to ground their inventive, venturing duals and also participate in their business.

That's not what most people think when they see "exacting attitude".

[ashlesha]

i don't see why it would be strange that an ESE's description of an ESI wouldn't sound great to an LIE. they would have different impressions and notice different things about the same person.

[EyeSeeCold]

i don't see why it would be strange that an ESE's description of an ESI wouldn't sound great to an LIE. they would have different impressions and notice different things about the same person.

Her descriptions are not really that subjective.

[Marie84]

i don't see why it would be strange that an ESE's description of an ESI wouldn't sound great to an LIE. they would have different impressions and notice different things about the same person.

I don't think Yellows type has anything to do with her observation, even if she has a preference for FeSi, her understanding of FiSe was still fairly consistent. But than again, I didn't find anything negative about her understanding of ESI's and can see how her observations of their directness and lack of spontaneity is something that an LIE would in fact find positive, whereas an SLE (which I strongly believe Ashton is) would find such an individual unappealing

[draon9]

It's very easy, if you are really ILE: an SEI will listen endlessly to your theoretical Ne-ramblings, and give you the impression they understand and agree, even when they don't. Your ramblings will be met with disapproval by ESIs, and at best they will argue with you and constantly disagree with most of what you say, opposing it with their own perspective, which you think is rather narrow-minded, outdated and makes you feel they haven't understood a single bit of what you said, that they didn't get the point.

ETA: another thing, SEIs, although not as expressive as ESEs, might laugh boisterous when they think something is very funny. ESIs are more likely to chuckle, or just smile, not even baring their teeth.

ISFp are fluid and esi are masochist.

[consentingadult]

ISFp are fluid and esi are masochist.

You think this is helpful information for an ILE who is trying to make out the difference? I mean, ILEs are not into behavior that would expose someone else's masochism, whatever their type ;-)

[The Reality Denialist]

You think this is helpful information for an ILE who is trying to make out the difference? I mean, ILEs are not into behavior that would expose someone else's masochism, whatever their type ;-)

Taking into account external factors one might able to see and hear about it.
Being a work horse despite of being well over the age of retirement and gone through multiple cancer diagnosis (yes, it is wise to continue working with hazardous chemicals in that case... ). For example? Or not?

[consentingadult]

Taking into account external factors one might able to see and hear about it.
Being a work horse despite of being well over the age of retirement and gone through multiple cancer diagnosis (yes, it is wise to continue working with hazardous chemicals in that case... ). For example? Or not?

I don quite understand what it is you want to know?How an ILE would detect being in the presence of on ESI? Well, for example, lets suppose an ILE male is making love to an ESI female. While taking her doggy style, he slaps her ass quite convincingly, and finds out the ESI responds quite positively to it. Now this won't happen this easily, because most ILE males are not into spanking. Like most SEIs are not into being spanked. But even if it were to occur, I wonder if ESIs would accept something like that from en ILE.

Of course I'm talking stereotypes here...