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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat View Post
    ... really, it would be unnatural for me to talk at all to any of the idiots SEE hangs around.

    LOL!!! I feel the same way about SLEs and their 'social circles'
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    Quote Originally Posted by misutii View Post
    LOL!!! I feel the same way about SLEs and their 'social circles'
    hahahaha- what do u guys mean? IME, SLEs and SEEs tend to have a shit ton of friends but a few good ones. don't judge us by the posse we're rollin up with!
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    Yeah well, I am going to brainwash SEEs from now on, and I am going to find a place anorexics hang out.. I might even go to an anorexia support group, claiming my sister has anorexia so I qualify... and that I just need to talk about things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat View Post
    Yeah well, I am going to brainwash SEEs from now on, and I am going to find a place anorexics hang out.. I might even go to an anorexia support group, claiming my sister has anorexia so I qualify... and that I just need to talk about things.
    Stop being so DANGED desperate, man. Find a woman you like, don't depend so much on Socionics. Seriously?

    No, no. Never mind. oops, sorry. Carry on.
    And this, too, shall pass away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FlameReborn View Post
    Stop being so DANGED desperate, man. Find a woman you like, don't depend so much on Socionics. Seriously?

    No, no. Never mind. oops, sorry. Carry on.
    SEE is the only type I remain attracted to over an extended period of time. I have tried getting along with people, I just hate them. Quite literally... the only type I think I do not show hatred toward is ESFp-Se. Even ESFp-Fi I usually end up in some kind of conflict with. I've had the closest thing to a dual relationship, an activity relationship... it was shity, and I hated it. Although it was with an ISFj-Fi.. not the better of the two subtypes. ISFj-Se may still be an option.
    Other then that, no... I don't think I want to fall into a delusional/insane state of mind which most people call love, and end up five years later trapped in a dead and silent existance struggling to hold up something which is crumbling all around me. I would rather live alone forever. It's no coincidence 60% of marriages end in divorce now days. I think it's a safe bet to say 30% stay together but are miserable to some degree. These are marriages we're talking... regular relationships... they are a waste of time if they are not in your dual.
    Maybe what you are telling me is this: learn to deal with some type of hell.
    I don't want hell in my life, I'm not going to give up and give in to it. I would rather live life in a sensory deprivation chamber
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat View Post
    SEE is the only type I remain attracted to over an extended period of time. I have tried getting along with people, I just hate them. Quite literally... the only type I think I do not show hatred toward is ESFp-Se. Even ESFp-Fi I usually end up in some kind of conflict with. I've had the closest thing to a dual relationship, an activity relationship... it was shity, and I hated it. Although it was with an ISFj-Fi.. not the better of the two subtypes. ISFj-Se may still be an option.
    Other then that, no... I don't think I want to fall into a delusional/insane state of mind which most people call love, and end up five years later trapped in a dead and silent existance struggling to hold up something which is crumbling all around me. I would rather live alone forever. It's no coincidence 60% of marriages end in divorce now days. I think it's a safe bet to say 30% stay together but are miserable to some degree. These are marriages we're talking... regular relationships... they are a waste of time if they are not in your dual.
    Maybe what you are telling me is this: learn to deal with some type of hell.
    I don't want hell in my life, I'm not going to give up and give in to it. I would rather live life in a sensory deprivation chamber
    lol @ you
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    Crazedrat, go outside and get some sun. Talk to your buddies if you have them. If you'd be content to live without women, do so until one comes within reach.

    Marriages don't end because people have love. They end because people are just stupid in general. You and me included. Now pull your head out of your ass, stop whining, and give yourelf a break.

    It's counter-intuitive, but in thi regard, I find the best way is to focus elsewhere.
    And this, too, shall pass away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat View Post
    SEE is the only type I remain attracted to over an extended period of time. I have tried getting along with people, I just hate them. Quite literally... the only type I think I do not show hatred toward is ESFp-Se. Even ESFp-Fi I usually end up in some kind of conflict with. I've had the closest thing to a dual relationship, an activity relationship... it was shity, and I hated it. Although it was with an ISFj-Fi.. not the better of the two subtypes. ISFj-Se may still be an option.
    Other then that, no... I don't think I want to fall into a delusional/insane state of mind which most people call love, and end up five years later trapped in a dead and silent existance struggling to hold up something which is crumbling all around me. I would rather live alone forever. It's no coincidence 60% of marriages end in divorce now days. I think it's a safe bet to say 30% stay together but are miserable to some degree. These are marriages we're talking... regular relationships... they are a waste of time if they are not in your dual.
    Maybe what you are telling me is this: learn to deal with some type of hell.
    I don't want hell in my life, I'm not going to give up and give in to it. I would rather live life in a sensory deprivation chamber
    To be honest, I can relate and agree to everything Crazedrat has written in this post.

    And yes, it's probably a sad thing, but it's also sincere. I think there are people who want to comfort themselves with the idea that any relationship is fun and can work out. Well, the reality is different and I don't like to deceive myself. Illusions are short term solutions.

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    Whatever floats your boat. :sigh: I can't say i haven't been there.

    But what makes your pessimissm more real than others' hope? I could argue this point on a historical/statistical basis, but I'm not in tthe mood. Go drown yourself in your delusional darkness. Sink into the black, yawning pit you think is reality. I'll go do the same, only ill eat pie too.
    And this, too, shall pass away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat View Post
    I don't want hell in my life, I'm not going to give up and give in to it. I would rather live life in a sensory deprivation chamber
    Haha, I thought about that too when I was pissed of everything around me. Must be a nice place to chill... :wink:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Well, the reality is different and I don't like to deceive myself. Illusions are short term solutions.
    That's totally true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat View Post
    Yeah well, I am going to brainwash SEEs from now on, and I am going to find a place anorexics hang out.. I might even go to an anorexia support group, claiming my sister has anorexia so I qualify... and that I just need to talk about things.
    this could lead to "Fight Club"
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