i'm afraid of a relationship with another INFp. should i be?
Identical Relations: INFp & INFp
i'm afraid of a relationship with another INFp. should i be?
INFP
Re: INFp identity
You should be afraid of everything.Originally Posted by nerv_damage
Drugs, teen sex, terrorists.
The dark.
The light.
... umm take that back. I would say no.
Re: INFp identity
You should be afraid of everything.
Drugs, teen sex, terrorists.
The dark.
The light.
... umm take that back. I would say no.
that doesn't help
INFP
Re: INFp identity
You should be afraid of everything.
Drugs, teen sex, terrorists.
The dark.
The light.
... umm take that back. I would say no.
that doesn't help
I'm saying you shouldn't be afraid like that. If you meet someone you want to be in a relationship with, go with it. And if you do do it and it doesn't work out, you live and learn.
This person is very special to me. If i feel incomplete and have to break it up, I'd never ever forgive myself for hurting her.
INFP
Pssh, who says she'd be happier never being in a relationship then being in one for awhile before it was over?
At worst, you'll end up getting bored of each other. It's actually very difficult to genuinely hurt your identical. I've tried. They see right through my bullshit, lol.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
thanks.At worst, you'll end up getting bored of each other. It's actually very difficult to genuinely hurt your identical. I've tried. They see right through my bullshit, lol.
i actually wanted to hear what you had to say more than anyone else because you remind me so much of myself and i've seen a video post you did and you look like my long lost brother.
INFP
Glad I could help.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
Re: INFp identity
No, you should not be afraid of a relationship. Just figure out whether it will work or not, and act accordingly. You might not know right away, but it is up to you to find out. And so on.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
thank you soo much. I'm not sure of her subtype but hopefully she's the Fe subtype like me cuz the Ni subtype like my friend sarra can be a pain. No offense to sarra or Ni subtypes.
INFP
Re: INFp identity
I've been thinking lately that we're all afraid of too much with respect to others.
socio: INFp - IEI
ennea: 4w5 sp/sx
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Ask yourself this: Do things “fall into place” when I talk to this person?
Go with your gut, and trust yourself and not other people. You know this situation first hand; therefore you know this better than we do. I have faith in you brother :wink:
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
--Theodore Roosevelt
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
-- Mark Twain
"Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in."
-- Confucius
Identical Relations: INFp & INFp
So I am kind of into another IEI, lols. And it looks as though my feelings are returned. I feel I like him as much as my SLE but in a different way. With the SLE it was like; -wow he's amazing. He's such an arsehole. He's so sexy- and with the IEI it's like -wow - he is so cute, aww =). But so mix messagey, ugh-.
Yeah so lol, does anyone think that an IEI relationship has a chance? I don't know if the attraction will stay strong, you know? It's just wierd because he is exactly like me. I thought people didn't get attracted to identicals =p!
LOL!
To answer your question, yes, double IEI relationship definitely CAN work. Just be sure to have a lot ofand
in your life somehow as well, otherwise it can feel very smothering, and as if you two are at a standstill. Other than that, understanding is magical and perfect, but the relationship may also seem to be er... a bit boring, without other quadra members to spur it along.
I think B&D put it really well when he said that with 2 identicals, you wanna lie in bed all day with lovey-dovey eyes and fuck each-other.. but not much else gets done.
My first love was with another IEI. We were star-struck. It was a serious Romeo-Juliet thing. But yeah, what ScarlettLux said is true. I think, if I had a choice between a dual or an identical, I would want my dual, long-term. Nearly ANY relation can work, honestly. But if I had a choice and got to do it all over again, I would probably actively look for my dual. I think the long-term affects could be enormous (in a very positive way).
IEI-Fe 4w3
Yeah you need to live fully if you have an identical relationship. Dual will insist you do stuff with them, so living/be with gets taken care of itself. But you have pure, bedroom understanding... but yeah, not much else. Which is fine if that's what you want in a relationship.
Identical is like, pure connection... but you kinda drown out too much of the outside world.
It's really the ONLY downfall though. Other than that, it's just as good as dual.
HAHA nice, but jtis just too boring besides the fucking. when you eat with them you dont have much too talk about, so you will only find comfort because you can be with wach other without saying much, are you really an INFp? becuase i dont think so lux.LOL!
To answer your question, yes, double IEI relationship definitely CAN work. Just be sure to have a lot of
I think B&D put it really well when he said that with 2 identicals, you wanna lie in bed all day with lovey-dovey eyes and fuck each-other.. but not much else gets done.
(D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)
I never had an Identical relationship so take what I'm about to say with a pinch of salt.
According to the holy scriptures of Socionics, Identical relationship are second best thing after duality. The main thing I guess is the fact that you do get even better understanding and the reduce chance for conflicts.
The main issue might be the lack of energy, lack of willpower.
I you take turns being "selfish" in bed and PLAN to do social things together, you cover a lot of the bad tendencies.
I also recommend Anthony de Mello's "A Rediscovery of Life" video series for the both of you. Practicing awareness will help you both with Se deficiency.
Earl Nightingale's "Lead the Field" audiobook will provide you with enough ideas to compensate for Ti. Play a game and force yourself (at least in the beginning) to do some of the suggested exercises.
Other than that... what can I say... have as less sex as possible... aim for 3/4 to 1/2 of natural tendencies and transfer some of the desire into every day activities. Read a good pictured book on Kama Sutra like Anne Hooper's.
Take some kind of sporty activity like swimming or dancing or both.
Best of luck!
"What is love?"
"The total absence of fear," said the Master.
"What is it we fear?"
"Love," said the Master.
I chose Love
They probably stand a chance, but I personally think they're the least fruitful of same-quadra relationships. Still, that's the 4th best relationship in the socion. (Or the 12th worst, depending on how you look at it.)
What are in your view the 2nd and 3rd? And why?
"What is love?"
"The total absence of fear," said the Master.
"What is it we fear?"
"Love," said the Master.
I chose Love
What dual gives you has little to do with psychological compatibility and has EVERYTHING to do with PHYSICAL compatibility. I don't mean sex per se or attraction -- but covering up weaknesses in the environment for the self-conscious introvert. (and directing the energy of the extrovert better)
Technically speaking, identical is always the best match *psychologically.* Or even mirror.
But duals give you 'the best of both worlds', they understand you, don't want to change you -- just like the Identical (like truly attracts like), yet the more extroverted/outgoing partner handles the physical environment 'real world' part that the introverted/subjective partner just can't handle. This has nothing to do with how much you LIKE a person, but has everything to do with what you NEED.
If you just want a type of relationship that is always private, where you just look cutsey in each other's eyes, then there's nothing wrong with Identical. They can sex you up, and treat you well privately. If you are already balanced and improved yourself enough, it's probably more ideal. But the two people try to function together objectivally, something goes wrong. Identicals are good for romance, Duals partnerships. Dual marriages get recognized easier by society because the objective world can see how the other person covers up your weaknesses.
Duals are better not because of Twu Wuv or that you innately like them better, it's a concrete, scientific, non-romantic thing.
If you live in a society that tries to totally get rid of environmental hazards, then you see Identicals finding love - like what happens in homoerotic college institutions (gay until college graduation for a lot of people), where people are given a safe haven just to think. But your dual is irrespecable in the messy natural world filled with obstacles. Gay culture is filled with aesthetics and peaceful worlds because of this. Some people say only minds can connect, others bodies. Concept of duality seems to try and include both.
It all depends on where you are and what you want etc.
The second best is mirror, the third is activity. This is based purely on the descriptions on socionics.us.
Although my best friend is EIE, and I have very good relations with him, I can't judge that relations with LSIs will be worse, because I don't know any.
Identical Relations: INFp & INFp
Inspired by Sirena's thread.
Seems like us IEI's love a bit of IEI, huh :wink
Honestly, I am feeling it too guys! I LOVE this IEI guy I know. His company is addictive, just being around him is therapeutic to me.
In a sense I feel like it's better than having a dual there! I have never felt such adoration for another person before. It's mental and I want it to stay like this forever. GOD, I would die if this got boring, which should happen soon according to the shitty rules.
So IEIs tell me about your experiences with your identicals, please? It seems as though it's not this way for every other type, to get such a kick out of being with their own type.
GOD someone please tell me this doesn't get boring! At least give me 60 years or so, then it can get dull because it won't matter if I am dead xD.
IEI, sp/sx 4w3.
lol, dinki, I absolutely love you.
I think you are just a really lusty person. And I bet you can afford to be, too.
lol, dinki, I absolutely love you.
I think you are just a really lusty person. And I bet you can afford to be, too.
I wish they were all up for a bit of Polyamory, but I bought it up one time and it didn't go down well...
IEI, sp/sx 4w3.
GOSH.
I am falling so fast and so hard for this kid.
IEI, sp/sx 4w3.
Example please
IEI, sp/sx 4w3.
I love how you write! It makes me lol. Thanks for sharing sugar.
This whole thread has just given me stiches, I am laughing so hard. Oh, but not at the soul shattering :frown:
IEI, sp/sx 4w3.
IEI, sp/sx 4w3.
Wow thanks! I love that metaphor. How often were you with your IEI? An IEI-IEI-SLE relationship would be AWESOMEI don't see the negative effects of IEI-IEI relations in boredom or stagnation or in being too forgiving. I'd rather say IEIs can provide extremely accurate analysis of your good and bad traits. Maybe it's a maturity thing, also? At least I have better and better relations with IEIs with age. The ONLY problem I see, is that IEIs, when the relationship is really good, make you grow trememdously as a person, but they won't really help you realize all of what you are learning. It kind of ends up like that baobab trees in The little prince. You grow and grow and grow, but have no earth to live on, or rather - your inside is huuuuge, but your world is still small - too small to carry it.
An IEI-IEI-SLE relationship must be awesome. An IEI to grow internally, and an SLE to help you bring it all out.!
IEI, sp/sx 4w3.
So would you say that it is better if IEIs spend not a lot of time together and have as much input from other types as possible?
IEI, sp/sx 4w3.
[QUOTE=octopuslove;514735]I would say - spend a lot of time together, but also spend a lot of time with other people, both together and apart:
* When you're together, alone, you can talk freely
* When you're together, in a large group, you can go out and do things (clubbing, bushwalking, whatever) and have inside jokes
* When you're apart, you have new experiences, and then you have something to talk about when you're together alone
I find that when I spend a lot of time alone with an identical I feel a bit frustrated and stagnant. By a lot of time, I mean 2 or 3 hours alone together, with a lot of time together with other people in between, every day for about a year. That's just too much time.[/QUOTE]
Thanks
IEI, sp/sx 4w3.
Would you say an hour a day, everyday for a year is too much timeYeah. I just end up bickering with them.
Oh, and:
I'm so flattered
IEI, sp/sx 4w3.
LMAO. I loved this post so much, seriously made me laugh so hard, thanks
Things I like about identical relationships
* I don't have to explain my crazy trains of thought, finally!
* You can have private jokes within a month of meeting each other. And they're usually pretty rude.
* If you have a problem, and you need them to help you, you don't have to speak in full sentences and they'll get the drift.
"Hungry... ATM $50 note... " *lots of hand-waving*
"Dig around under the drink machine, you'll probably find some change there."
Problem solved!
* Actually, you usually don't even have to speak. Eye contact is enough. This is useful in large group situations when someone's being irritating.
* I can trust them to do things that I can't trust anyone else to do properly.
* All their ideas are good!
* You can never stay angry at them for very long, especially after they've explained themselves.
* You find the exact same things funny. And not just like, "Oh, we both found that episode of Flight of the Conchords funny." It's, "We both found the tone of his voice when he said the last syllable of the word "frangipani", combined with that cactus in the background no one noticed at 5:14, HILARIOUS."
* They know precisely what I'm thinking, and what I mean by anything I say or do.
Things I don't like about identical relationships
* I sometimes feel like I'm competing for the spotlight.
* If they're in trouble, I feel compelled to help, even if it's detrimental to me.
* They know precisely what I'm thinking, and what I mean by anything I say or do.
IEI, sp/sx 4w3.
How to shake up identical INFp + INFp relations
So as it doesn't get boring. Be agressive? Be bitching? What's a girl gotta do :wink
IEI, sp/sx 4w3.
You could have an 'opposite day' where you act totally out of charachter and act and say things that are the total opposite of what you would normally do. A bit like Bizarro world if you ever watched Sienfeld...
The Bizarro Jerry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You could take it to the extreme.... different clothes...different hair... no boundaries!
Haha thanks =], fun idea! I'm so doing it, that, and I am going to attempt to supply some artificial Se =]
IEI, sp/sx 4w3.
cheatSo as it doesn't get boring. Be agressive? Be bitching? What's a girl gotta do :wink
No no no no. I think aggressive/bitchy behavior turns anybody off. (of course a lot of it is perception a lot of people come across as 'rough' when they really aren't)
Just umm one of you probably has to show more oomph into the assertive department. But a little bit can go along way really.
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