ESTj ? ISTx ?
ESTj ? ISTx ?
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
LSI sounds more accurate to me. Seems to value Fe, and "stoic" definitely sounds LSI>LSE.Originally Posted by Wikipedia
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I agree about the "stoic" appearance, but I thought ...
Si in the ego-block.Originally Posted by Wikipedia
This confirms to what I tend to think of as Fi in delta STs.Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Well, this one does sound like Se/Ni.Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Having watched the film and being somewhat familiar with the plot, I think he's definitely an ST character, and probably delta. I wouldn't dismiss LSI, but I don't think there's a 4th possibility.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
I think the first is definitely more related to valuing Fe.Originally Posted by Winterpark
The first part of the second sounds superficially like either Sensing function in the ego, but the second does seem more Fi and Si.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
ISTp or ISTj, not ESTj.
Anyone else?
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
bumped for Gulanzon
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
I haven't seen this movie nor am I familiar with this character, therefore, I cannot give a strong opinion on this guy's type, but I don't think anything within the quoted Wikipedia article points toward Fe valuing at all.
My opinion on how Fi HA (or suggestive) manifests in Delta STs correlates with WP's, but I think any type can be that way, just based on the description, but all together Delta ST makes sense. LSI would be my second or third impression, without any other knowledge than what's been presented in this thread thus far.
Gulanzon is my homeboy.
Delta.
Se-devaluing = avoids Conflikts by "standing out". I'd associate his really deliberate feel with being Si base, not Se base. That he's Morally Upright points to Fi-valuing.
I'd read Se-egos as being singularly ruthless with an element of Chaos For The Hell Of It. Whitaker's dude in Ghost Dog, for instance? He's not Se-base. There's no wilful Chaotic Stupid in any of his actions. Same with Jack.
At the same time, he seems to be too level, mood-wise. WP, as resident Awesome/SLI, would you say you feel cyclical, or just low-key and deliberate?
For now, Delta ST. Leaning towards LSE.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
Not really. It depends on the person. You can see the more conservative, small town ESFjs who think people's customs from other countries or cultures unlike their own are foolish. And ISTjs who are the same way.
You've never encountered an ISTj dad who pushed for his children to be a certain way, a certain major, a certain career, and scoffed at them if they chose something he thought was stupid?
There are so many other factors, I don't see how you can classify it as "Fe valuing".
You could just as well say that it's "Fi Ne" if you want to.
I don't think not scoffing at other people's beliefs is, in and of itself, significant of much.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
Robot city: MOST DISTURBING SCENE IN ALL OF SAMURAI JACK.
I'm trying to think of an episode with more accentuated Fi (and Si) values. Any ideas?
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
I think those wiki quotes could easily point to LSI.
Plus, I think his temperament is a very good example of IJ.
Thread moved to Personas Famosas.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...