adding myself to the list of people who didn't care to complete it.Originally Posted by Elro
I have tried like three times and just can't get through that book.
adding myself to the list of people who didn't care to complete it.I have tried like three times and just can't get through that book.
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I'm at the fourth chapter, the book is fucking hilarious!lol he was defending his armor at that water stand from donkey men, and when the "fine ladies" came and saw that he had taken down two of them he got such strenght that he wouldn't fear if all the worlds donkeydriver had came at him at the same time.
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I don't know the types of these authors.. But I have really enjoyed them! It's really hard to find a book I enjoy, and I do search constantly, but I still tend to stick with the same fiction authors.
Fiction:
Chuck Palahniuk... I think he's INFj. I've been to a book signing. He's just weird enough to be one!
Kurt Vonnegut
Philip K. Dick
Orson Scott Card
Craig Clevenger
Douglas Adams
Albert Camus
John Steinbeck
Amy Hempel
H.G. Wells
Aldous Huxley
Non-fiction:
What Einstein Told His Cook: Kitchen Science Explained 1 & 2 by Robert L. Wolke sounds pretty ILE. Had lots of fun reading them.
I skim through a ton of non-fiction... but i can never recall who wrote them or the title... i just gobble them up, then throw it aside.
Stephen Hawking
Michio Kaku
omg, they're so cute!
Haruki Murakami
Short stories by Ray Bradbury
Jack London
Calvin and Hobbes
What type is Mark Twain? I remember reading his books just so it'll put me to sleep as a kid.
As a kid... I looooved Roald Dahl, Beverly Cleary, Judy Blume, and E.B. White.
"These books are not necessarily Alpha, but simply books which [Logos] happened to enjoy reading even if they belong to another Quadra."
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I couldn't get through the beginning of the Silmarillion. I've heard it was worth it, but meh.
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I do not think that LotR holds up for me on multiple readings. I was able to read it quickly the first time through, but the second time was an exhausting chore. In contrast, I have been able to repeatedly read and appreciate the Silmarillion, but I have read my share of mythology and read the Anglo-Saxon Chronicles and Bede's Ecclesiastical History of the English People for fun.
With Dune I have made the argument elsewhere that while I think that the book itself is probably of a Gamma-flavor, Paul Atreides is probably an LII playing the part of a prophet. Also, I have read only Dune and refuse to read the sequels, which mostly receive mixed reviews, and the post-Frank ones receive far more negative reviews.
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I hold C.S. Lewis's space trilogy ("Out of the Silent Planet", "Perelandra", "That Hideous Strength") to be my favorite books. Lewis was probably INTj, and "Perelandra" in particular goes off intofor a while without really advancing the story.
Those books do contain thinly veiled references to Jesus and the Christian God.
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Alpha recommended reading/books and authors
Here's a list of some of mine (in no particular order):
1. The Elegant Universe - Brian Greene
2. Philosophy of Science: A Very Short Introduction - Samir Okasha
3. Einstein for Dummies - Carlos I. Calle
3. Wittgenstein - Avrum Stroll
4. Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
5. Strange Brains and Genius - Clifford A. Pickover
6. The Philosophy Gym - Stephen Law
7. The Ruttledge Shorter Encyclopedia of Philosophy
8. various Stephen King books
As you can see, my collection lacks fiction. I actually prefer non-fiction, but I'd like to hear of some good fiction books as well.
Also, here are some books that have been sitting on my shelf that look really cool, but I haven't had the time to read them (or I'm just starting to):
1. Ideas and Opinions - Albert Einstein
2. The Problems of Philosophy - Bertrand Russell
3. Innumeracy - John Allen Paulos
4. A Brief History of Time - Stephen Hawking
5. What the Bleep do we Know!?
6. Freakonomics - Steven D. Levitt
I just started getting into reading again, and I'm now buying books faster than I read them. It's usually the case that the physics and philosophy books get read, while I'll hesitate to read the others. I prefer simpler books on these subjects that convey the main idea, as opposed to more intricate, but dry ones, especially on physics, since I don't have the background to appreciate high-level physics books. These lists will also probably be updated at some point in the future. Anyway, if you know of some good books (especially fiction), please create a list!
Jason
The Elegant Universe and Brave New World are great books. Also it's great to see another Wittgenstein fan! Have you read The Duty of Genius by Ray Monk?
Most of my favorite books are by three authors: Daniel Quinn, Derrick Jensen, and Lyall Watson. My favorite book out of all of them by far is Lifetide by Lyall Watson. It's like a roller coaster ride for me, it's that engaging.
Binary or dichotomous systems, although regulated by a principle, are among the most artificial arrangements that have ever been invented. -- William Swainson, A Treatise on the Geography and Classification of Animals (1835)
Numbered for fun rather than ranking :wink:That's all I can think of right now! Looks like I'm pretty big on the comic sci fi/fantasy o_0
- Red Dwarf: Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers and sequel Better Than Life Grant Naylor (HILARIOUS!)
- Armor John Steakley (sad...)
- Terry Pratchett
- Douglas Adams
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- A History of Chinese Philosophy Fung Yu-Lan
- Christopher Stasheff's Wizard in Rhyme series
- Any Nero Wolfe stories by Rex Stout (probably the closest writer to how I naturally wrote when I was younger, 1st person humorous, but cockier and less sappy)
- Oddkins Dean R Koontz
Edit: Oh god, I almost forgot all the Dragonlance novels by Tracy Hickman and Margaret Weis. AWESOME.
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
Haven't read any of the above.
My favourites include..
anything by Jane Austen
most of Dickens (esp David Copperfield, Nicholas Nickelby)
Vanity Fair (Thackery, Thackary, w/e)
Anna Karenina (Tolstoy)
East of Eden (Steinbeck)
To Kill A Mockingbird (Harper Lee)
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
It's ages since I opened a book. But my favorite ones fit for general consumption would be
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[quote=Cone;531506]The Elegant Universe and Brave New World are great books. Also it's great to see another Wittgenstein fan![QUOTE]
Thank you. I appreciate that.
Surprisingly, I've looked into that, but I haven't bought it. The book on Wittgenstein is both biographical and goes into his philosophy, but it just skims the surface. I'd like to have a good biography on him.Have you read The Duty of Genius by Ray Monk?
These seem like interesting authors. Are they usually writing about solving social problems using out-of-the-box solutions?Most of my favorite books are by three authors: Daniel Quinn, Derrick Jensen, and Lyall Watson. My favorite book out of all of them by far is Lifetide by Lyall Watson. It's like a roller coaster ride for me, it's that engaging.
Jason
Schizmatrix - Bruce Sterling
everything ever written by Philip K Dick
Dune (entire series, including prequels) - Frank Herbert (prequels by his son)
'Ware series - Rudy Rucker
Sprawl series - William Gibson
Vacuum Flowers - (don't remember who did it)
Hardfought - Greg Bear
Dark Tower series - Stephan King (I don't generally like King, but this was such amazing storytelling)
there are sooooo many more, but this is the top list at the moment in rough order from top to bottom (the cyberpunk is ALWAYS on it
@ Jason
Yeah, if you're looking for a very good biography, Ray Monk's book is exactly that. There's very little about Wittgenstein's actual philosophy, the book being almost totally biographical.
And only Quinn and Jensen talk about solving social problems, but I wouldn't exactly consider them "out-of-the-box" solutions but rather getting at the absolute root of the problem, i.e. civilization itself. These guys, along with John Zerzan, more or less define the anti-civilization movement and other ideologies such as anarcho-primitivism and neo-tribalism.
Lyall Watson on the other hand is a naturalist. His books are about biology, evolution, the supernatural, and the "other side of things". His ability to take supernatural occurrences seriously or at least consider them optimistically and his ability to show that reality really is stranger than fiction instills in me a new-found sense of wonder and perspective about the world that I just find incredibly addicting. His books generally give you information about things you've never heard of before. Yeah, I'd definitely recommend his book Lifetide.
Binary or dichotomous systems, although regulated by a principle, are among the most artificial arrangements that have ever been invented. -- William Swainson, A Treatise on the Geography and Classification of Animals (1835)
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Clicking on an image.What I am do wrong?
had to go look this up and found this
I want to read this now
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My recommendations are:
- Jules Verne stories (classics)
- Frank Herbert's Dune (it's a lot to read if you got the whole series)
- Books written by Stanislaw Lem (it's sophisticated sci-fi)
- Karl May books (he inserts himself into the stories and experiences awesome adventures, mostly interesting but sometimes he's just too awesome)
Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.
Arthur Schopenhauer
Arnold Toynbee - A Study of History
Nicolai Gogol - The Overcoat & Other Tales of Good and Evil
Gabriel Garcia Marquez - One Hundred Years of Solitude
Herman Hesse - Siddhartha
Miles Davis & Quincy Troupe - Miles: The Autobiography
Fyodor Dostoevsky - The Idiot / Notes from Underground
Gustave Flaubert - Madame Bovary
The Autobiography of Malcolm X
Norman Davies - Europe: A History
The Unspeakable Confessions of Salvador Dali
I'm trying to find books to read myself so I'm gonna try some of the books you mentioned.
Here are my suggestions, I don't know if they can be called alpha books, but some alphas I know liked them
Peter Høeg: Smilla's Sense of Snow
http://www.amazon.com/Smillas-Sense-...3709643&sr=8-1
A sort of detective story with a lot of talking about snow and ice in an aesthetic but also scientific way.
It was a page turner for me, and I liked the atmosphere in the book. But it's now many years since I read it.
Umberto Eco: The Name of the Rose
http://www.amazon.com/Name-Rose-incl...3709754&sr=1-1
I recommended this to an ILE and she liked it very much.
Paul Auster: The Brooklyn Follies
Two LIIs I know liked it. I'm gonna read it too.
I loved those as a kid.
Elro said the main character is me, but I've never read it to know.
good.
And I thought I was the only who read that antiquated thing. No clue about Tonybee except perhaps some ethical type and maybe Ni ego. I'd like for him to be Alpha though.
Fantasy ftw. Other genres are boring.
i don't know if these are alpha books or not but these are the last couple i've read:
_into thin air_
_a world lit only by fire_
_the monster of florence_
_collapse_
_the third chimpanzee_
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OMG I must have this book.had to go look this up and found this
I want to read this now
It looks great! But what was the thing about the bird? Why are his friends dead?
Because he is a Dodo.
There aren't Dodos any more.
That is because they are flightless birds. I mean, if you're going to be a bird, why in the good sweet hell wouldn't you fly? It's just a lack of good evolutionary sense.
Edit: You know, I bet the reason there aren't Dodos any more is because they all committed suicide over how lame they were as birds. They probably got mocked by seagulls and pigeons all the time, like, "I bet you dumbasses wish you could do this!"
lmao
I though you were gone, pinkcanary!
Hmm books... I just ordered and browsed two books of Paracelsus: "Opus Paramirum" and "Ars Alchimica". I don't recommend them, though. (they're not in English, too)
Alpha or not, some of my favourites:
How to Teach Physics to Your Dog, Chad Orzel.
Chaos: Making a New Science, James Gleick.
Strange Brains and Genius, Clifford Pickover.
The Einstein Factor, Win Wenger and Richard Poe.
Super Freakonomics, Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner.
Breaking the Spell, Daniel C. Dennett.
Einstein's Cosmos, Michio Kaku.
The Road to Reality, Roger Penrose.
The Essential John Nash, Harold W. Kuhn and Sylvia Nasar.
Life of the Cosmos, Lee Smolin.
A Brief History of Time, Stephen Hawking.
Paradoxes from A to Z, Michael Clark.
Relativity Simply Explained, Martin Gardner.
The Evolution of God, Robert Wright.
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